04-02-2004, 15:25
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Chrysler Neons have 2.0L engines, right?
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Astra can have 2.2i 16v twin-cam engines
Courtesy cars, generally being entry level spec have entry level engines
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04-02-2004, 15:30
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Re: Bill Gates
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I have no idea what an astra is. Anyways, why would you want to "accelerate" with a 1.4 or 1.6? That isn't even an engine. My lawnmower has a bigger engine.
With the Corvette it was different.  You floor it, and it immediately flipped two gears down, revs at 6,000, going from 120 km/h to 190 km/h in a blink of an eye.  Maybe BMW should learn from the Americans. 
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You see, there's the difference, your 1.6 engines are used for lawnmowers because when it comes to effieciency the Americans have absolutely no clue, a good fuel injected 1.6 engine over here would out acclerate and outpace and be a lot cheaper to run than one of your silly, environment destroying 6 litre pointless behemoths.
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04-02-2004, 16:11
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Then why don't you buy a 1.3 liter? Or better yet, a 50cc scooter?
It is simply my choice. I wouldn't buy a car with anything smaller than a 3L engine. I don't particularly care about all that efficiency.
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04-02-2004, 16:13
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Re: Bill Gates
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a good fuel injected 1.6 engine over here would out acclerate and outpace and be a lot cheaper to run than one of your silly, environment destroying 6 litre pointless behemoths.
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I would like to take you up on that. You pick any 1.6 liter engine car, and I will pick a 5.7L Corvette Z06. I want you to prove that you can accelerate faster, and outpace the Corvette.
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04-02-2004, 16:30
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Re: Bill Gates
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Then why don't you buy a 1.3 liter? Or better yet, a 50cc scooter?
It is simply my choice. I wouldn't buy a car with anything smaller than a 3L engine. I don't particularly care about all that efficiency.
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Thats right, your pollution is harming other people so what does it matter
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04-02-2004, 16:48
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If you want to cry about pollution, please address the issues in China, Indonesia, and Brazil.
And how is my pollution "harming" other people? Please explain.
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04-02-2004, 16:53
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Re: Bill Gates
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I have no idea what an astra is. Anyways, why would you want to "accelerate" with a 1.4 or 1.6? That isn't even an engine. My lawnmower has a bigger engine.
With the Corvette it was different.  You floor it, and it immediately flipped two gears down, revs at 6,000, going from 120 km/h to 190 km/h in a blink of an eye.  Maybe BMW should learn from the Americans. 
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whats wrong with a 1.6 l car  , maybe time for a spin off thread and let this get back to whatever it is supposed to be about
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04-02-2004, 16:57
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Re: Bill Gates
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I would like to take you up on that. You pick any 1.6 liter engine car, and I will pick a 5.7L Corvette Z06. I want you to prove that you can accelerate faster, and outpace the Corvette.
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Yes, let's be stupid and pick a car with a starting price of over 50,000 dollars ... get real man. Pick what is considered a normal saloon car with a 4+ litre engine, example, I had a 4 litre Buick Le Sabre, it may well be able to tow a house but the acceleration and top speed were nothing compared to an Astra SRI I drove.
edit: And concerning your reply about looking elsewhere for the causes of pollution, perhaps as one of the worlds leading nations you should set an example instead of rejecting things like the Kyoto agreement and still insisting on mass producing oversized hunks of metal that probably deplete more fossil fuel for one, than 5 UK cars.
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04-02-2004, 16:59
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And how is my pollution "harming" other people? Please explain.
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Jerrek, Pollution does not stay in one country. It may travel thousands of miles and affect the population of another country entirely. Admittedly when people in other countries are suffering from Asthma (and other breathing disorders that have been associated with traffic pollution), there is no way to say that the pollution was caused by any one person.
Anyway, what have cars got to do with Bill Gates?
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04-02-2004, 17:00
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Re: Bill Gates
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Yes, let's be stupid and pick a car with a starting price of over 50,000 dollars ... get real man. Pick what is considered a normal saloon car with a 4+ litre engine, example, I had a 4 litre Buick Le Sabre, it may well be able to tow a house but the acceleration and top speed were nothing compared to an Astra SRI I drove.
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What was the top speed?
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04-02-2004, 17:03
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Anyway, what have cars got to do with Bill Gates?
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The question about bill gates' worth was answered ages ago, and led us to the differences between the US and civilisation :pp
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04-02-2004, 17:10
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Honda CRX SiR, known to break 240kmh, 0 - 100kmh in 8 seconds .. all from a 1.6 engine.
WNA, the Buick wouldn't get past 90mph, let's just say the SRI screamed way past that.
And besides, a Lotus Carlton poo's on your corvette  (and still managed to keep an engine capacity of only 3.6 litres). 0-60mph in 5.2 seconds, top speed of over 187mph
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04-02-2004, 17:15
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The question about bill gates' worth was answered ages ago, and led us to the differences between the US and civilisation :pp
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And there are Millions, Billions, ooh is this back on topic
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04-02-2004, 17:47
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The question about bill gates' worth was answered ages ago, and led us to the differences between the US and civilisation :pp
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Fair enough..
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04-02-2004, 19:03
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Re: Bill Gates
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Yes, let's be stupid and pick a car with a starting price of over 50,000 dollars ... get real man. Pick what is considered a normal saloon car with a 4+ litre engine, example, I had a 4 litre Buick Le Sabre, it may well be able to tow a house but the acceleration and top speed were nothing compared to an Astra SRI I drove.
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We'll pick a C4 from the 1980s. Lets spend say, $12,000.
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edit: And concerning your reply about looking elsewhere for the causes of pollution, perhaps as one of the worlds leading nations you should set an example instead of rejecting things like the Kyoto agreement and still insisting on mass producing oversized hunks of metal that probably deplete more fossil fuel for one, than 5 UK cars.
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Kyoto is a way of taking money from developed nations and giving it to third world countries. I'm not interested in such socialism. If Mexico, Indonesia, China, and India are exempt, then I don't see why we should join.
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Jerrek, Pollution does not stay in one country.
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I don't think I've said anything to the contrary.
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It may travel thousands of miles and affect the population of another country entirely. Admittedly when people in other countries are suffering from Asthma (and other breathing disorders that have been associated with traffic pollution), there is no way to say that the pollution was caused by any one person.
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Please give me some facts of how the U.S.'s pollution has affected countries thousands of miles away.
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And besides, a Lotus Carlton poo's on your corvette (and still managed to keep an engine capacity of only 3.6 litres). 0-60mph in 5.2 seconds, top speed of over 187mph
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That is not a 1.6L engine as your original bet.
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