Re-classification Of Cannabis

[Bill Payer]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Please do us a favour and don't ever drive/ride a bike/horse whilst under the fluence.Thanks.

Incog.

Yes,of course. ALL dope smokers are brain-addled-idiots without an ounce of common sense!

A few years ago there were a series of debates,on TV,one of which was about drugs.During which,a top physician was asked

If a life saving operation was needed on yourself & a choice of 3 surgeons were available.Which would the physician choose?

The choices were;
1: An Alcoholic.
2: A Heroin Addict.
3: Under severe personal financial difficulties.

The Harley Street Physician had no hesitation in choosing option 2 as the surgeon most likely to be able to consentrate on the job.

I personally know Policemen,Firefighters & Medical workers who are regular Cannabis smokers,all of whom know when & where not to smoke.

Of course,there are those who don't know better.Smoking a spliff while driving down the M4 at 5am is not an option that my (late) friend Lee will ever have the chance to do again.(There may have been other factors involved).

As for Cannabis being addictive - Bullox!
I was a regular dope smoker for 17 years.For a while,I was sharing a house with some dealers - nearest I ever got to giving up smoking cigarettes I gave it up when my daughter was born.I still smoke ciggies & drink like a fish.I have the occaisional toke,to be socialble,but I don't miss it.

Originally Posted by Bill Payer

Yes,of course. ALL dope smokers are brain-addled-idiots without an ounce of common sense!

You have obviously not read the entire thread or you wouldn't be speaking to me in this way.



Incog.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Bill Payer

Yes,of course. ALL dope smokers are brain-addled-idiots without an ounce of common sense!

I believe the following quote backs up was Incog was saying

Originally posted on http://www.itv.com/news/429580.html
The study of 100 regular and 90 casual users of cannabis found 74 per cent admitted getting into their cars while under the influence of the drug. This was despite 70 per cent saying they believed that using it had impaired their driving ability.

So, 74 percent of cannabis users have admitted to driving while under the influence. Whether you are aware of it or not, cannabis, as with alcohol, does affect the user's ability to drive.

Originally Posted by BillPayer

As for Cannabis being addictive - Bullox!

Yes, I agree, cannabis itself is not addictive. However, under certain circumstances those using cannabis may be persuaded to experiment with something that is addictive. Some Drug addicts I know got started this way.

But scastle we can't keep nannying everyone.If people are going to take drugs then we might as well accept it and actually try to protect the weakest(children)whilst allowing the rest to be adult in their choices.It might actually be better for people who want to to be able to buy unadulterated drugs at a good quality and a reasonable price with clear instructions on how to use them.Add a good sized excise duty on them and then plough some of that back into education and rehabilitation whilst hopefully removing some or the worst criminal aspects of drug usage(prostitution,mugging,dealing,gun crime).

The only people who are doing well with the present laws and attitudes towards drugs are the drugs barons and the agencies that are supposed to stop and hinder the trade.They are fighting a losing war.

You can probably find flaws with my suggestions but so we can with the present system.

Incog.

[neel2k]

New Scientist tells me on the subject of gateway drugs, that "Many hard drug users have followed a similar path from cigarettes and alcohol, to cannabis, to heroin and cocaine". So, as people seem to be against cannabis as it is a gateway drug, are these people also against cigarettes and alcohol?

Anyway, what is the penalty - the penalty imposed on me by the police realistically, not the one written down in law - if I grow cannabis from my personal religious use?

[Sociable]

Originally Posted by neel2k

Anyway, what is the penalty - the penalty imposed on me by the police realistically, not the one written down in law - if I grow cannabis from my personal religious use?

Providing you don't "spread the gospel" very little although they will confiscate the religious icons and any incense burners.

The danger is what would be perceived as the break point for considering any quantity possesed as being for personal use so you do run the risk of full prosecution and the implication now is that once that line is crossed the penalty will be much higher now.

[Xaccers]

I'd still like to know why people need to take drugs? (other than an adiction)

Originally Posted by Xaccers

I'd still like to know why people need to take drugs? (other than an adiction)

Now there's a good question!

[neel2k]

In Hinduism and Rastafarianism it is a part of the religion.

Originally Posted by neel2k

In Hinduism and Rastafarianism it is a part of the religion.

And that's a good answer. Anyone know why?

[Bill Payer]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

I'd still like to know why people need to take drugs? (other than an adiction)

Enjoyment!

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Bill Payer

Enjoyment!

What kind of enjoyment?

[danielf]

Originally Posted by towny

And that's a good answer. Anyone know why?

Singapore Airport... (for those reading this later, this was Towny's 'location' as he posted this)? Will you be posting from the plane as well?

Now go and have a walkaround, and buy some more pressies for your family!!!!!!!!!

[neel2k]

With Hinduism, I think it was a god called Shiva that used weed. It is suposed to help in meditation and prayer by removing distractions so it helps you focus and think.
In Rastafarianism, I've been told by a Rasta that the Indians (Hindus) brought over to Jamaica by the British, infulenced the Africans that were also brought over. Some Rasta beliefs come from Hinduism like dreadlocks and Weed, the God Shiva had Dreads and used weed.

Very interesting indeed, but does cannabis really help you to focus on anything?!