career racism ?

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Graham

I don't deny that at all. The question is "What do you *do* about it"?

You do what most police forces do, try and work with the comunity, showing them that there is a way other than crime.

Originally Posted by Graham

I doubt anyone would do it just because of that.

But if it was last week, and the week before, *and* last month *and* your friends *and* your relations and all just because you're black, perhaps you might think a little bit differently.

More likely you'll just end up resenting the police.

Originally Posted by Graham

And soon decide it isn't worth it.

No, who move away from the area, or get themselves careers in something they want to do, like become estate agents, or policemen.

Originally Posted by Graham

More likely because the Whites refused to live in the same communities as the heathen Blacks etc or because the employers frowned on "mixing the races" etc.

So you don't think it was a case of the companies having a batch of asians arriving in one go, so bulk buy houses and fill them. Then a batch of west indians due, so again, bulk buy houses for them to live in, and fill them up?
You think that the employers were racist and went to the specific effort of segregating groups rather than dumping them all in on each other and sitting back laughing while they fight amongst themselves and have to take time off work because of their injuries?

Originally Posted by Xaccers

You do what most police forces do, try and work with the comunity, showing them that there is a way other than crime.

What they are supposed to do and what they actually do may be two entirely different things viz "institutional racism".

More likely you'll just end up resenting the police.

And then someone says "come on a joy ride" or "we're going to do some shoplifting" or "we're going to nick some stereos" and the thought might be "I shouldn't do that, but there again, what do I owe those ba$$$$ds?"

No, who move away from the area, or get themselves careers in something they want to do, like become estate agents, or policemen.

And those who can't get careers like that or can't afford to move away are stuck in an area that becomes more and more deprived.

So you don't think it was a case of the companies having a batch of asians arriving in one go, so bulk buy houses and fill them.

No.

You think that the employers were racist and went to the specific effort of segregating groups rather than dumping them all in on each other and sitting back laughing while they fight amongst themselves and have to take time off work because of their injuries?

Care to back that speculation up with anything?

[kronas]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

I am joking you know but you two do come across like an old married couple

Incog.

it could be a three way, with ramrod involved as well............at times

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Graham

Care to back that speculation up with anything?

Originally Posted by Graham

More likely because the Whites refused to live in the same communities as the heathen Blacks etc or because the employers frowned on "mixing the races" etc.

Isn't your comment just speculation too?
If we werent' there, didn't know the employers, then all we can do is speculate.
Your speculation relies on the employers going to extra expense and effort.
Mine relies on the employers being cheapskates who don't want to spend any more than they have to, back in a time where companies didn't feel they had to have a comitment to their local comunity.

Anyway, are we getting off topic?

Isn't career racism like career sexism? Where employees can't get promoted because of their race.

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Isn't your comment just speculation too?

May I point you to various ghettos around the world which are very often the only places that minority groups can find places to live, not because they don't *want* to live somewhere else, but because they *can't*.

Isn't career racism like career sexism? Where employees can't get promoted because of their race.

Very possibly.