12 year old convicted of rape

kronas · 17-01-2004, 02:20

the then, 11 year old kyle abdo has been convicted of raping a nine year old girl, while playing hide and seek.

DNA evidence has proven the boy now aged 12, was indeed the offender.

he has been sentenced to 30 months detention.

source: BBC news

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...de/3404513.stm

and people dont believe me, when i say society is going down hill.

ZrByte · 17-01-2004, 02:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas

and people dont believe me, when i say society is going down hill.

I think people dont believe you because it was never Up Hill to begin with,it was just never heard about.
Though I do think this is terrible, how did the thought even enter his head

kronas · 17-01-2004, 02:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZrByte

I think people dont believe you because it was never Up Hill to begin with, you just didnt hear about it.

maybe, but people we alot nicer to each other about 7 years ago(possibly more) trust me on that, personal experiance.

steady decline..........

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZrByte

Though I do think this is terrible, how did the thought even enter his head

i dont know either

carlingman · 17-01-2004, 02:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas

the then, 11 year old kyle abdo has been convicted of raping a nine year old girl, while playing hide and seek.

DNA evidence has proven the boy now aged 12, was indeed the offender.

he has been sentenced to 30 months detention.

source: BBC news

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...de/3404513.stm

and people dont believe me, when i say society is going down hill.

No offense meant here

But instead of creating a new thread at this time, would it not be possible for you to just post a thread with news and then post the relevant links to each topic.

I could sit here all night and post links and create new threads every time a news item broke out.

Just a thought.

kronas · 17-01-2004, 02:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlingman

No offense meant here

But instead of creating a new thread at this time, would it not be possible for you to just post a thread with news and then post the relevant links to each topic.

I could sit here all night and post links and create new threads every time a news item broke out.

Just a thought.

NO, and i dont see any discussion about a rape anywhere

swoop101 · 17-01-2004, 06:15

Just a thought,

Could we not give Kronas his own section, something like 'The Kronie News Network'

Just a thought

kronas · 17-01-2004, 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by swoop101

Just a thought,

Could we not give Kronas his own section, something like 'The Kronie News Network'

Just a thought

no that would be bias, it would not be feasable aswell, it would take the scope off the 'items' i post.

Bex · 17-01-2004, 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZrByte

Though I do think this is terrible, how did the thought even enter his head

kids are learning more and more about sex at earlier and earlier ages.....who knows he may have been subject to sexual abuse....

doesnt take away from what he did though, being raped at any age isnt pleasant but being that young and not really understanding what is happening (maybe) is not pleasant at all

and you lot dont be mean to kronie...he is just trying to get discussions going

Ramrod · 17-01-2004, 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas

and people dont believe me, when i say society is going down hill.

I believe you

17-01-2004, 18:23

Just out of interest..... i read in the report on this story in The Scotsman that Judge Clifton ordered that Abdo register as a sex offender for life and he lifted an order which had previously banned his identity from being published.

Abdo commited the crime when he was 11 years old..... is this necessary?
Although his sentence is only 30 months in detention.... is this life sentence justified in the light of his age? Is he likely to change his behaviour as he matures? The boys that killed Jamie Bulger now have their indentities hidden.... and they were of similar ages....

Just wondering......

kronas · 17-01-2004, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by kink

Just out of interest..... i read in the report on this story in The Scotsman that Judge Clifton ordered that Abdo register as a sex offender for life and he lifted an order which had previously banned his identity from being published.

thanks for the extra information

Quote:

Originally Posted by kink

Abdo commited the crime when he was 11 years old..... is this necessary?

yes i believe it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kink

Although his sentence is only 30 months in detention.... is this life sentence justified in the light of his age?

no need for the drama, its not exactly a life sentence, i see your point, but he did something he knew he was doing, and i think he knew it and took advantage.......

Quote:

Originally Posted by kink

Is he likely to change his behaviour as he matures?

possibly, but who knows, its better to keep things under control rather then let him loose.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kink

The boys that killed Jamie Bulger now have their indentities hidden.... and they were of similar ages....

no one can justify there actions, the law is not consistant its unfair but that is life, it can be unfair, you have to put up with that.

Stuartbe · 17-01-2004, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas

thanks for the extra information

yes i believe it is.

no need for the drama, its not exactly a life sentence, i see your point, but he did something he knew he was doing, and i think he knew it and took advantage.......

possibly, but who knows, its better to keep things under control rather then let him loose.

no one can justify there actions, the law is not consistant its unfair but that is life, it can be unfair, you have to put up with that.

I could not agree more.... If he new it was wrong then he should be punished for it.

Why is it that people are allways thinking of the criminal and not the victim ?

kronas · 17-01-2004, 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuartbe

I could not agree more.... If he new it was wrong then he should be punished for it.

thats what i believe also.........

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuartbe

Why is it that people are allways thinking of the criminal and not the victim ?

im sick of the constant 'relaxed' attitude towards criminals/offenders just because he is young you can tell me we should be 'easy' on him sorry but NO we are 'easy' on alot of people and that does not get you anywhere except cause even more offenses and offenders........

Stuart · 17-01-2004, 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by kink

Just out of interest..... i read in the report on this story in The Scotsman that Judge Clifton ordered that Abdo register as a sex offender for life and he lifted an order which had previously banned his identity from being published.

Abdo commited the crime when he was 11 years old..... is this necessary?
Although his sentence is only 30 months in detention.... is this life sentence justified in the light of his age? Is he likely to change his behaviour as he matures? The boys that killed Jamie Bulger now have their indentities hidden.... and they were of similar ages....

Just wondering......

Having never read any studies on sex criminals (and yes, I do realise rape has nothing to do with sex), I do believe that at 11 the guy SHOULD know what is right and what is wrong. I personally believe he should be treated the same way as any rapist.

However, I don't believe his ID should have been revealed.

17-01-2004, 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas

[Snippity snip].....

no need for the drama, its not exactly a life sentence,

....[Snippity snipped].

What drama? I was simply asking a couple of questions that came to mind... i haven't expressed my opinion on his sentence or the crime. I hardly ever offer my opinion on forums... i only ask questions that might help me to understand what others are thinking.
I asked if people considered the boy being put on the sex offender register for life acceptable.... that is what i referred to as a life sentence.

Both you and Stuartbe seem to have assumed that i am sympathetic to the boy's case.... a boy who raped a 9 yr old girl..... and showed no remorse...... all i did was ask a couple of open ended questions without condemning his actions or agreeing with his punishment.

However, i have your opinions and that was all i was after. So thank you.