[merged] Price increase

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by themelon

Sky only really have cheap deals on installation, taking these is generally a mistake anyway in my experience pay for a decent installation is my word of advice!! Other than that is damn well expensive and keeps on going up. When I left Sky the World Package was £34 I think thats less than 2 years ago, and now its £40.... ..........price rises well beyond inflation, what exactly is Skys reason??!!

BT its self isnt necessarily cheaper for calls, depending on you calling patterns it can be very pricey......not forgetting the Standard Plan (£9.50) which calls cost 7.9p a minute for day time national calls!! And Talk Unlimited 24 is also cheaper than the equivilent BT package. It is true their are good deals on a BT line, through different providers.......providing you can get an acceptible line quality in the first place!!

Sky quite often telephone their customers who are on the lower tier packages and offer them free or reduced price upgrades for a period

There is nothing wrong with the subsidised installs, mine have always been first class. You get good and bad installers with whoever you choose, paid for independents or subsidised installers. Sometimes the subsidised installers are independents who Sky have contracted. The same is true with NTL installers, some are very good and others are horrendously bad.

Maybe Sky prices have risen by more than the rate of inflation but not by as high a rate as my NTL package has increased. What is NTLs excuse for this when the quality of their services has decreased?

You forget to say in your telephony price comparisons that the BT standard plan includes £2.15 of free calls and that evening and weekend local calls are cheaper on this plan than with the NTL 3-2-1 plan. For the user who makes very few calls it is cheaper than anything NTL have to offer.

For those who make more calls then BTs 6p call plan is the same price as NTLs but does not suffer from the NTL 5p connection charge during peak weekday hours. Instead it offers discounts on calls at this time to your friends and family circle.

You also fail to show the comparison with the Talk Unlimited plan which is £1 cheaper with BT than NTL and again has no connection charge with BT during peak weekday hours and has the friends and family discounts.

The only plan where NTL is cheaper is the talk unlimited 24 which is £3.50 cheaper with NTL. Lets face it though, you have to be making a lot of peak weekday calls to geographic numbers to gain from this plan.

All in all, the best plan for most people is the BT Together 6p plan with judicial use of another provider (such as call18866) during peak weekday time and for very short offpeak calls. Not only do you have cheaper calls but also the ability to choose from many ADSL providers (if within the correct distance on an enabled exchange).

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by ianathuth

<snip>For those who make more calls then BTs 6p call plan is the same price as NTLs but does not suffer from the NTL 5p connection charge during peak weekday hours. Instead it offers discounts on calls at this time to your friends and family circle.

>snip

True, bt doesn't suffer the connection call charge of 5p - but it DOES suffer a minimum call charge of 5p if I'm not mistaken? - edit - no, I'm not mistaken, just checked their tariffs.

Just wanted to get ALL the facts in the open, you understand.

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by orangebird

True, bt doesn't suffer the connection call charge of 5p - but it DOES suffer a minimum call charge if I'm not mistaken?

Just wanted to get ALL the facts in the open, you understand.

Quite true OB, forgot to mention that point but it doesn't detract from the fact that BT are cheaper, but I would far sooner have a minimum 5p charge than an extra 5p charge. That is why I put in the option of using a provider such as call18866 for very short calls as they only have a 1p connection charge and 1p per minute call charge.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by orangebird

True, bt doesn't suffer the connection call charge of 5p - but it DOES suffer a minimum call charge of 5p if I'm not mistaken? - edit - no, I'm not mistaken, just checked their tariffs.

Just wanted to get ALL the facts in the open, you understand.

The difference if Ntl charge you 5p ON TOP OF you call charge, BT charge you a minimum of 5p, its a big different over the year.

Again, I advocate using a third party calling company, I use Call18866.co.uk now I'm with BT (1p per min during the day!!!) When I was with Ntl I used One.Tel. They can save you a bomb!

[JohnM]

Out if intrest... where does one get 2 meg DSL for £39.99?

I have a feeling i'll be there like a shot.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by dellwear

The difference if Ntl charge you 5p ON TOP OF you call charge, BT charge you a minimum of 5p, its a big different over the year.

Again, I advocate using a third party calling company, I use Call18866.co.uk now I'm with BT (1p per min during the day!!!) When I was with Ntl I used One.Tel. They can save you a bomb!

Absolutely - if you make lots of short calls, you're definitely better off with bt - otherwise it's 6 of one etc....

I just wanted ALL the facts.

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by JohnM

Out if intrest... where does one get 2 meg DSL for £39.99?

I have a feeling i'll be there like a shot.

bulldog do it for one

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

bulldog do it for one

I'm on their 2mbit prime-time tariff, 512k during the day and 2Mbit after 6pm and at weekends/bank holidays, it costs £29.99 on offer, but I'm not sure when it ends.

An around excellent product so far, I can recommend them with pride

I also believe Silver-mead do a 2mbit service too

[DrAwesome]

Originally Posted by JohnM

Out if intrest... where does one get 2 meg DSL for £39.99?

I have a feeling i'll be there like a shot.

I use 2mb adsl service all the time for £39.99 have a
Read of Post #10 if you have time i have listed 2 adsl isp's that offer 2mb at £39.99 (links are provided)

[Graham F]

Originally Posted by Kedoo

I have heard no rumour of a price increase and considering working here, I think I would have, if people outside here have ...

Probably made up again, and then blown out of proportion by somebody like always happens in the forums :/

I hope you are not trying to say that i just made this up?!?

only time will tell in the end but i have a feeling that what i heard is true

[Foo Fighter]

So its £29 for 2mb offpeak? and about £10 for the line rental from bt?

and if i get rid of ntl bb and fone i might as well ditch the tv as it costs loads if i dont need the included line rental... its one out all out with ntl.

[DrAwesome]

Originally Posted by Foo Fighter

So its £29 for 2mb offpeak? and about £10 for the line rental from bt?

and if i get rid of ntl bb and fone i might as well ditch the tv as it costs loads if i dont need the included line rental... its one out all out with ntl.

An Isp called Bulldog have a 2mb off peak service & the BT standard line rental is around £10 (plus you get a few quids worth of offpeak free calls) have a read in here for all the info you need

[Salu]

NTL INCREASE THE PRICE OF BROADBAND. 600K GOES UP FROM £24.99 TO......
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Mass exodus would ensue......

[aggie]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

just checked and i am only 50% towards getting adsl

My exchange is only at 27%, and I'm probably too far away to get it

But wireless broadband is currently being rolled out to the villages around here, so hopefully I'll escape ntl via that route within a few weks

[Stuartbe]

Originally Posted by aggie

My exchange is only at 27%, and I'm probably too far away to get it

But wireless broadband is currently being rolled out to the villages around here, so hopefully I'll escape ntl via that route within a few weks

I am within two miles so I will be o.k.

I am leaving NTL at the end of the month. I think they will increase there prices as they have to pay the MD'S that extra cash

Even if they did'nt I would not stay with them. I have had enough of there poor service and poor support.