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Old 22-12-2003, 18:26   #121
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Re: what to do ?

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spot on the mark i reckon , and it takes guts to post summat like that
It sure does so thanks for that contribution Dr P a voice of reason as always.

You are so correct about the pace of the healing process. Suicide is all about people who feel they have run out of options and pushing them into a time corner only serves to reduce yet further the options open to them.
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Old 22-12-2003, 19:15   #122
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Uh Oh ........ Bexy's back, I've seen her lurking

The bad boys better beware ....

Kronas, please post ..... something .... anything ..... please
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Old 22-12-2003, 19:18   #123
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Re: what to do ?

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Uh Oh ........ Bexy's back, I've seen her lurking

The bad boys better beware ....

Kronas, please post ..... something .... anything ..... please

and i will second that , where are you kronie ??????????????
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Re: what to do ?

Or PM one of us if that is easier.

We are just wanting to know you are OK that's all no pressure to talk.
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Old 22-12-2003, 19:21   #125
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Re: what to do ?

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should be fun when bexy pop's in later
you're not scared of me are you paul? or do you just think i am an opinonated madam

well what can i say about today's posts? sometimes it does take someone giving you a swift kick up the backside and making you 'snap' out of the mood you are in, personally i think that this only works when the person is beginning to go down that horrid spiral of depression/feeling down...at this point it is possible to make them realise that how they are feeling is irrational.... i have had people do this to me a lot.... however i feel that once a person has begun to gfet serverly depressed and has considered suicide (not just as a fleeting thought but seriously thought about it) then it is not the best tactic to try and use.... bug i see your point and it may seem that we are "pussy footing" around kronie, but what we have really been trying to do is get him to seek help, to open up to someone, maybe a member of the forum, a friend, a family member or a professional..... maybe we are wrapping him up in cotton wool a bit, but that is because we care about the lad... we are worried for his state of mind, and in my eyes we are being his friends....

i understand that you may know the suituations which are happening in his life a bit better than we do, however has he told you what is going through his mind? it is not the situations that necessarily effect us but the thoughts and the mentality behind them.....think about it, you may not agree with me, and i accept that...and if you want to discuss that then please feel free to pm me and i will reply....

secondly, i want to give dr p a big and you have obviously been through a tough time...currently i am going through a pretty rough patch with certain things, and one day i may open up more to those of the forum (although some will get the gist of it from my blogs) but i don't feel i want to at this time be open about it on the public forum......

anyway was a bit of an essay from me there......i've been at work all day and have just been catching up with this thread.....
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Or PM one of us if that is easier.

We are just wanting to know you are OK that's all no pressure to talk.
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Uh Oh ........ Bexy's back, I've seen her lurking

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Kronas, please post ..... something .... anything ..... please
oi shut it you :P

was posting my mamouth essay type post so :p
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oi shut it you :P

was posting my mamouth essay type post so :p
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Old 22-12-2003, 19:27   #130
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Bexy...why have you got 1 Cor: 13 as your sig?
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Re: what to do ?

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you're not scared of me are you paul? or do you just think i am an opinonated madam

well what can i say about today's posts? sometimes it does take someone giving you a swift kick up the backside and making you 'snap' out of the mood you are in, personally i think that this only works when the person is beginning to go down that horrid spiral of depression/feeling down...at this point it is possible to make them realise that how they are feeling is irrational.... i have had people do this to me a lot.... however i feel that once a person has begun to gfet serverly depressed and has considered suicide (not just as a fleeting thought but seriously thought about it) then it is not the best tactic to try and use.... bug i see your point and it may seem that we are "pussy footing" around kronie, but what we have really been trying to do is get him to seek help, to open up to someone, maybe a member of the forum, a friend, a family member or a professional..... maybe we are wrapping him up in cotton wool a bit, but that is because we care about the lad... we are worried for his state of mind, and in my eyes we are being his friends....

i understand that you may know the suituations which are happening in his life a bit better than we do, however has he told you what is going through his mind? it is not the situations that necessarily effect us but the thoughts and the mentality behind them.....think about it, you may not agree with me, and i accept that...and if you want to discuss that then please feel free to pm me and i will reply....

secondly, i want to give dr p a big and you have obviously been through a tough time...currently i am going through a pretty rough patch with certain things, and one day i may open up more to those of the forum (although some will get the gist of it from my blogs) but i don't feel i want to at this time be open about it on the public forum......

anyway was a bit of an essay from me there......i've been at work all day and have just been catching up with this thread.....


me scared of you , uhhhhhhhhhhh yes absoloutly bloody terrified , having said that , top post i reckon
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Re: what to do ?

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me scared of you , uhhhhhhhhhhh yes absoloutly bloody terrified , having said that , top post i reckon
thanks for the compliment and i'm a pussy cat really

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Bexy...why have you got 1 Cor: 13 as your sig?
ramrod well done, thought it would take people longer to realise...why do i have that as my sig? well for certain personal reasons and well i can't escape the fact that i am a christian
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i can't escape the fact that i am a christian
y would you want to bex,stand up and be counted
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Old 23-12-2003, 01:17   #134
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thanks for the compliment and i'm a pussy cat really


ramrod well done, thought it would take people longer to realise...why do i have that as my sig? well for certain personal reasons and well i can't escape the fact that i am a christian
is this it?

6 Rejoice not in iniquity, but rejoice in the truth;

7 Bear all things, believe all things, hope all things, endure all things.

8 Charity never fails: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.


It is a brilliant passage, perhaps the 'best in the bible', if there is such a thing. "But then shall I know even as also I am known" is particularly evocative
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Re: what to do ?

sorry for this late reply i have been away, trying to do stuff rather then sit around moping

i would like to address something here and the thing is the art of your freinds turning your back on you giving you 'advice', as they call it or perhaps spreading around something that was personal ?

yes i opened up to a so called freind who in turn notified 'bug infestation', of my problem now i dont know what the original contents of the modded post were (if anyone does feel free to pm me excludes bug)

but you have fallen in to the hands of the UDT of other boards

now i know who my freinds really are so everyone who is physically my freind ie offline will now be shut out because as i said in my post towards the begining i cannot trust ANYONE

my point has been proved

im feeling better then i have been previously and i hope i can be back to normal soon
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