Monitoring usage - Page 2

Womble · 16-12-2003, 19:25

why worry? as has been stated ntl don't seem to enforce the cap. I've manged 3.3gb in one day and not a word!!. But, I can assure you that there is a team who monitor it. I think the only time you'll hear anything is if a particular UBR has a problem and your the heavy user on it. As for the cap, the US cable Co's all have one, so it was only a matter of time before it came here.

hjf288 · 20-12-2003, 23:27

MRTG Monitoring is possible but it wouldnt be permanent. At times there have been times when the modem has opened itself up and started listening but then after about an hour it would close the bridge and reject it for around 5 hours then open again. Not really useful but when it is open - it works fine

Florence · 20-12-2003, 23:29

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Originally Posted by hjf288

MRTG Monitoring is possible but it wouldnt be permanent. At times there have been times when the modem has opened itself up and started listening but then after about an hour it would close the bridge and reject it for around 5 hours then open again. Not really useful but when it is open - it works fine

I have never managed to get this to work as it will not communicate at all can't even ping it.

deadite66 · 21-12-2003, 06:39

it must be an regional thing PRTG has been working fine for me for over 6 months now.
kitty have you considered changing to a router that has proper snmp support so you can poll that instead of the cable modem?

Florence · 21-12-2003, 06:53

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Originally Posted by deadite66

it must be an regional thing PRTG has been working fine for me for over 6 months now.
kitty have you considered changing to a router that has proper snmp support so you can poll that instead of the cable modem?

For now its the money side thats stopping a change of router I have been in contact with Linksys to see if they can alter the frimware to allow this but they havent come up with any ideas. Another company did point out that if NTL want to start adding in restrictions that wasn't there when customers joined then they should provide the was to monitor it online.

I have a linksys BEFSR41 version 2 I know this will not block MRTG as I have a friend who uses MRTG on the telewest BB and his is online for all to see.

I have used PRTG but it has to have the SACM rebooted to get it to work and if anything happens like the pc rebooting or an illegal operation it stops and will not start again without another reboot of the SACM. BBKing did suggest this was not the best way to go about it so I have stopped rebooting the SACM. This leaves me back where I started DU- Meter logging just me if I put it on the kids they turn it off my son blames it for slowing his game down,perhaps he don't want me to know what amount he is downloading.

hjf288 · 21-12-2003, 10:10

Kitty, if PRTG works that way then MRTG will but here it seems to open every 5 hours which is pretty pointless for me.
I mean the cable modem is on the same subnet of 255.255.255.0 so there shouldnt be a problem and as demonstrated on robin walkers site - once the default gateway is the cable modem its straight open. I think its the UBR tbh... But id just love to figure out how to bind 192.168.100.2 on netmask 255.255.255.0 with a default gateway of 192.168.100.1 without having to disabled my main internet connection... :/

Florence · 21-12-2003, 10:55

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Originally Posted by hjf288

Kitty, if PRTG works that way then MRTG will but here it seems to open every 5 hours which is pretty pointless for me.
I mean the cable modem is on the same subnet of 255.255.255.0 so there shouldnt be a problem and as demonstrated on robin walkers site - once the default gateway is the cable modem its straight open. I think its the UBR tbh... But id just love to figure out how to bind 192.168.100.2 on netmask 255.255.255.0 with a default gateway of 192.168.100.1 without having to disabled my main internet connection... :/

If anyone can tell you its BBKing he is the best NTL have and if its possible then its BBK who will know how.

hjf288 · 21-12-2003, 17:02

BBKing is around here? If so can you please give Windows XP instructions for binding a second ip/gateway and netmask to the same adapter?

Linux its easily possible...

rdhw · 21-12-2003, 17:56

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Originally Posted by hjf288

can you please give Windows XP instructions for binding a second ip/gateway and netmask to the same adapter?

This is trivial if the primary IP is fixed (click the Advanced button in TCP/IP configuration), but impossible if the primary IP is issued by DHCP.

BBKing · 21-12-2003, 18:04

You can use a static IP on ntl for a bit but it will eventually time you out. Using a second IP would then be possible for a bit.

Could the problem be stated clearly for me please, I'm a bit dense at the moment (at home looking after baby and rebuilding server which exploded in the night).

It's unlikely ntl will allow you to directly hit the CM ntl-side IP (which isn't 192.168.x.x). There are also different types of SACMs in ex-CWC areas (such as Kitty and the chap from Yarmouth) so that may make a difference.

Chrysalis · 21-12-2003, 20:05

du meter will work internal lan or not, only diff is if you do have an internal lan then you need to configure du meter to only use the cable modem device, having configurable ports isnt much good lan doesnt use any specified ports.

zendawn · 21-12-2003, 20:24

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Originally Posted by Keyser

I wouldn't worry about breaking the limit aranj. Nobody has ever heard of ntl enforcing this policy. Looks like AntiCap got there way in the end

I wonder how much of our net traffic quota is made up of spam, ads and popups. I use google tool bar to stop popups which hopefully doesnt count towards the total, but the flash ads are a pain and must add some to the total bytes?

Florence · 21-12-2003, 21:08

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Originally Posted by BBKing

Could the problem be stated clearly for me please, I'm a bit dense at the moment (at home looking after baby and rebuilding server which exploded in the night).

My only problem is the damn thing won't work on NTLs setup when will they work like Blueyobder and allow us to monitor. Or if they distrust us that much supply it online for us to view only, but willl show whats goinhg through the SACM daily/monthly.

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Originally Posted by BBKing

It's unlikely ntl will allow you to directly hit the CM ntl-side IP (which isn't 192.168.x.x). There are also different types of SACMs in ex-CWC areas (such as Kitty and the chap from Yarmouth) so that may make a difference.

Tell me all I ever wanted was to monitor my own online usage of bandwidth..... You would think I was asking NTL for gold bullian.... One thing it might show up is the crap speed of this weekend...

hjf288 · 22-12-2003, 00:35

Well 192.168.100.1 is the modems address, it provides the diagnostic web stats. Only if we bypass ntls ubr and connect straight to the modem can we access it.

We just want to use SNMP to monitor the modem and find out our usage using MRTG, PRTG, Lanspy bandwidth monitor pro, etc... So we can monitor our usage and probably lower it or find out what its used on

deadite66 · 22-12-2003, 01:00

i know ntl don't enforce the cap but i try to keep to the spirit of it.
if i couldn't monitor my usage i could easily go over it all the time.