[merged] what to do (etc .....)

kronas · 20-12-2003, 04:14

when you feel down and out have nothing to live for and might as well 'top yourself' ?

Stuart W · 20-12-2003, 05:00

Umm... go to bed?

You are probably damn tired mate

kronas · 20-12-2003, 05:04

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Originally Posted by Stuart W

Umm... go to bed?

i am going to but cant sleep

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Originally Posted by Stuart W

You are probably damn tired mate

no

Xaccers · 20-12-2003, 05:27

read the bible? (WARNING! - Genisis reads like Tolkien, but it does have incest and offering of daughters for sex, so it is a bit racey)

Sociable · 20-12-2003, 11:33

This is the worst time of year to be feeling down and alone and feel that you are running out of options.

Short answer is find someone, anyone and talk to them.

If you are not sure how feel free to PM me and I will send my number so you always have at least one person you will know is available at the other end of the phone OK

Also have a read of this and take a copy and print it out so you can re-read next time you feel this way.

DESIDERATA

Go placidly amid the noise and haste and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull & ignorant; they too have their story.

Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become bitter or vain, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals; and everywhere life is full of heroism.

Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is perennial as the grass

Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive him to be, and whatever your labours and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all it's sham drudgery and broken dreams it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful, Strive to be happy.
(MAX EHRMANN)

Russ · 20-12-2003, 11:48

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Originally Posted by kronas

when you feel down and out have nothing to live for and might as well 'top yourself' ?

Avril not replied then?? (j/K)

Seriously, why are you so down?

paulyoung666 · 20-12-2003, 11:58

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Originally Posted by kronas

when you feel down and out have nothing to live for and might as well 'top yourself' ?

believe me i have been there there are ways out if you look for then pm me if you want to talk -------- serious offer --------- paul

kronas · 20-12-2003, 16:29

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Originally Posted by Russ D

Seriously, why are you so down?

its been ongoing for the past few months ive tried to occupy myself to keep my self happy but no help at all

i even tried doing it last night but something stopped me maybe concience or my vow never to do it im shaking as i type this

Bex · 20-12-2003, 16:38

kronie huni,

you have my number if you EVER need to talk i'm at the end of the phone....

i know what it is like to feel alone and depressed, it isn't a nice feeling, but admitting it is kind of the first step along the road.... you have friends mate, get together with simon or something... i really feel for you hun

Florence · 20-12-2003, 17:01

Kronas there are times when everything seems to go wrong and nothing you can do seems to help. Its hard but always remember there is nothing in this world that is worth the loss of your life. Its always better if you share you fears, worries or feelings. You have many friends on here and in real life let them help if you prefer your real life friends not to know what is going through your mind now talk to one on here who can help. We all feel for you when things are down sleep is hard for loads of people when they have stress, or loss but it does get better.

Bex · 20-12-2003, 17:11

huni, just a thought, when i am feeling depressed, i generally push people away, sometimes you think this will help but it means you end up getting swallowed up in your negative feelings even more...over the last few weeks i have found the best medicine to any negative feelings is to talk to someone, find someone you are comfortable with and have a good old whinge....also the best medicine is laughter, i know it sounds like a cliche, but honestly it does help...a friend of mine is fantastic and gauging my mood and knows when i am feeling down and he always makes me laugh.... i generally come away thinking life isn't as bad as i first thought

<light hearted response> if you can't sleep get hold of a philosophy book, it is guarenteed to make you fall asleep in five minutes..... i used to read it to my nephew and low and behold he would always fall asleep

Sociable · 20-12-2003, 17:33

Just to add to the excellant advice from Kitty and Bexy think back to one of my comments in the avril thread about making sure you don't let your dreams get in the way of the real people that are all around you and will always be happy to help when you need a shoulder to lean on.

You need to learn to take the risk of trusting real people even though I know that is scary for you right now it is the answer trust me.

downquark1 · 20-12-2003, 17:56

Just think, "I'm here, so I might as well carry on and see what happens."

20-12-2003, 18:03

Hi Kronas

I just wanted to add my 'voice' to the expessions of support from the nice folks on this forum.

It's hard when you think you are at rock bottom and can't see any way forward, but sometimes you can gain new strength & sense of purpose, from the perspective it gives you. Try to think of some of the things that you are good at, like computers, and the things that give you pleasure, like your music & friends/family.

One thing I have to say, is that I have experienced a dear friend 'topping himself' - he left behind a lot of hurt and angry people. Selfish I know, but I still havn't really forgiven him, - and I don't want to feel the same way about you! So keep listening to that conscience!

I'm glad you are able to talk about it and I, as well as the others here who have expressed their support, will help you out any way we can.

Gaz

paulyoung666 · 20-12-2003, 18:05

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Originally Posted by homealone

Hi Kronas

I just wanted to add my 'voice' to the expessions of support from the nice folks on this forum.

It's hard when you think you are at rock bottom and can't see any way forward, but sometimes you can gain new strength & sense of purpose, from the perspective it gives you. Try to think of some of the things that you are good at, like computers, and the things that give you pleasure, like your music & friends/family.

One thing I have to say, is that I have experienced a dear friend 'topping himself' - he left behind a lot of hurt and angry people. Selfish I know, but I still havn't really forgiven him, - and I don't want to feel the same way about you! So keep listening to that conscience!

I'm glad you are able to talk about it and I, as well as the others here who have expressed their support, will help you out any way we can.

Gaz

well said that man