Do you want this government out?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Mick

It's the way he tells 'em.....

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

It just goes to prove how thick and stupid this government is, when they are considering a u turn on defence cuts.

This country MUST have the armed services at full strength, otherwise we can be targeted at any time, We now have the Libby thing, when you think that it had hit this country twice, Firsly our armed services are in several countries, now we have them in Libby.

And then we have the police services on stanby in case of any aggro in this country.

I think what the government have done is open there gob before thinking.

Why? ,Why must this country have a massive armed force? ,where is the threat? ,who is going to invade us ?

I ask these questions Arthur in the hope of an answer ...but i'm not holding my breath

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by marty

Why? ,Why must this country have a massive armed force? ,where is the threat? ,who is going to invade us ?

I ask these questions Arthur in the hope of an answer ...but i'm not holding my breath

Arthur has never answered a question on this forum when asked to. He would sooner post his factless drivel in the vain hope someone might believe him.

He reminds me of some sort of bot thats posts every now and then to elicit a response when the forum slows down

[Angua]

Fear is a wonderfully self fulfilling circular argument Labour were masters of. Remember how complacent we were during the height of the IRA bombings. People didn't behave in a way that allowed fear of an attack to control our lives. We just carried on regardless.

The main reason I am glad Labour are not in government is down to how much control they wanted over everyone. From ID cards to the fear used to make everyone think being against them was unreasonable. When in reality there are more than enough existing methods to track people.

BTW I have never been pro Tory either.

[Sirius]

I think it was a woman called Viv Nicholson (might be wrong) who was famous for winning the pools and saying spend spend spend, Labour modeled them selves on her with our money.

Is that what some truly think we should go back to.

Originally Posted by Sirius

I think it was a woman called Viv Nicholson (might be wrong) who was famous for winning the pools and saying spend spend spend, Labour modeled them selves on her with our money.

Is that what some truly think we should go back to.

When Viv had her spending spree she would have had something to show for it ,after the 10 yr spending spree by the labour government do we have enough to show for it .If i took out a loan and spent it all on my house i would end up with a very nice house it may take ten yers to pay the loan back but it would be worth it because i would have increased the value and would have something to show for it ,can we say the same about labours borrowing ?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by marty

When Viv had her spending spree she would have had something to show for it ,after the 10 yr spending spree by the labour government do we have enough to show for it .If i took out a loan and spent it all on my house i would end up with a very nice house it may take ten years to pay the loan back but it would be worth it because i would have increased the value and would have something to show for it ,can we say the same about labours borrowing ?

We do have something to show thanks to Labour.

A country ruined by years of Labour mismanagement. A country ruined by Labour top brass that like to call its supporters BIGGOTED. A country so far in debt it will take years to pay it back. A country with an opposition party who think and say NOT MY FAULT blame someone else. LABOUR the Viv Nicholson's of politics

Originally Posted by Sirius

We do have something to show, A country ruined by years of Labour mismanagement. A country ruined by Labour top brass that like to call its supporters BIGGOTED. A country so in depth it will take years to pay it back. A country with a opposition party who think and say NOT MY FAULT blame someone else. LABOUR the Viv Nicholson's of politics

I wonder if one of those solicitors that get your money back when ill advised about borrowing will be able help HMG

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by martyh

I wonder if one of those solicitors that get your money back when ill advised about borrowing will be able help HMG

Dont know ask Arthur , He has an answer for everything or so i have been told

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I am 59 years old, and am proud of my country, BUT l was brought up in a manner that every penny counted.

We must have a full strength armed services, as it has been proved that anywhere in the world, a war can break out and we are the first country to offer our galant troops.

What this government are doing is jumping in at the deep end before thinking, we the voters, voted for a givernment that gave so called promises (and Labour) and have hit us from both barrels.

We need a full strength armed services to protect our shores, we need as full strength police service to protect us, what have we had since the puppets got in defence cuts, police forces cuts to save money.

Yet they can find, now matter where it came from, 650 MILLION to fund another country, what about this country - our local hospital is making cutbacks and are going to lose 350 staff that includes Drs and Nurses, where is the sense, they can find funds, to give to another country, but cannot find funds to pay for local services - as the The Sun said (a Tory paper) Osborne is going mad.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I am 59 years old, and am proud of my country, BUT l was brought up in a manner that every penny counted.

We must have a full strength armed services, as it has been proved that anywhere in the world, a war can break out and we are the first country to offer our galant troops.

What this government are doing is jumping in at the deep end before thinking, we the voters, voted for a givernment that gave so called promises (and Labour) and have hit us from both barrels.

We need a full strength armed services to protect our shores, we need as full strength police service to protect us, what have we had since the puppets got in defence cuts, police forces cuts to save money.

Yet they can find, now matter where it came from, 650 MILLION to fund another country, what about this country - our local hospital is making cutbacks and are going to lose 350 staff that includes Drs and Nurses, where is the sense, they can find funds, to give to another country, but cannot find funds to pay for local services - as the The Sun said (a Tory paper) Osborne is going mad.

Arthur - You are not paying any attention to what anyone is saying around you. For a 59 year old man - You dismiss anyone elses opinion, and or ignore the real facts and I find that just plain ignorant.

It has been pointed out to you several times now that the £650 Million pound handed to Pakistan, didn't just come from nowhere - this money was there in the funds that are allocated specifically, for the purpose of overseas aid.

We do not need a full strength Armed forces at this current time - There is no immediate threat to any war, and at the moment we cannot afford a full strength armed forces for reasons already explained to you.

Take bloody heed, the country is in massive debt, the country at the moment cannot afford life's little luxuries, so if you were actually a man who was brought up to believe that every penny counts, then accept the fact, CUTS are the necessary action to take place to control the debt burden.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

our local hospital is making cutbacks and are going to lose 350 staff that includes Drs and Nurses, where is the sense, they can find funds, to give to another country, but cannot find funds to pay for local services

Which Hospital is that then. 350 staff from one hospital is a hell of a lot of staff ???? And please Arthur answer the bloody question just for once in your life

Or if Arthur is unwilling to answer yet again, What area is Arthur in so we can chack on the facts

[Chrysalis]

Mick to backup your own argument tho we dont need to dish out overseas aid either. So why does it even have a budget?

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Mick to backup your own argument tho we dont need to dish out overseas aid either. So why does it even have a budget?

Yes we do need to dish out overseas aid, what a stupid thing to suggest that we should not dish out overseas aid - Overseas aid boosts UK reputation abroad, helps trade and industry overseas and helps to boost British exports and bring the UK extra revenue keeping people in jobs in this country.

Originally Posted by Sirius

Which Hospital is that then. 350 staff from one hospital is a hell of a lot of staff ???? And please Arthur answer the bloody question just for once in your life

Or if Arthur is unwilling to answer yet again, What area is Arthur in so we can chack on the facts

I think he's in west london around twickenham area as i seem to remember that he whinged about the snow on the A4 not being cleared ,also the TW road being bad ,and i can't find any hospital anywhere in England that is laying off 350 staff ,maybe a group of hospitals under the management of a trust such as Leads but non local to Arthur