All Chipped Cable Boxes Going Down

[jtaylor06]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Would love to see that happen.

Set-top written on the side so they can't get done for falsity too.
well they would have paid for a set-top box then

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Sirius

All so do you think the cable companies will not be able to hunt down the cs servers


Heard on another forum that one of those servers has already died the death

Enjoy being ripped off

Bit of an update

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.u...aid.6298437.jp

Not sure if this is Cable or Sat but to the police for the bust. Keep it up.

[EBD3000]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Bit of an update

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.u...aid.6298437.jp

Not sure if this is Cable or Sat but to the police for the bust. Keep it up.

Harehills what a shock!

[TheDon]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Bit of an update

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.u...aid.6298437.jp

Not sure if this is Cable or Sat but to the police for the bust. Keep it up.

Says they seized satellite boxes so guessing sat. Still shows they're serious about it though.

That's going to be an ever increasing trend once everywhere is n3. You'll soon find all the public servers going down because they're so easy to track.

Foreign based ones will probably stay around, but the digital economy bill makes it trivial to force ISPs to block access to them (and VM could easily just null route them anyway, and most people getting free tv are probably getting free internet too).

Cardsharing isn't going to be public for all too long, it won't take much until it's pushed back underground (unless someone develops a truely p2p cardsharing sharing system...)

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by EBD3000

Harehills what a shock!

If it was a space port it would be

Mos Eisley

[joglynne]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Bit of an update

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.u...aid.6298437.jp

Not sure if this is Cable or Sat but to the police for the bust. Keep it up.

That does read as though they were a Sat CS setup but it nice to know that action was taken against them. The more publicity about these people getting tracked down the better.

Reading some of the VM CS related posts on the Dark Side has been interesting in that the common consensus seems to be that people now more wary about getting ripped off. Having to buy new kit and then paying a years money up front to a dodgy CS set up that can not be held accountable in any way if they fail to deliver seems to be a step to far for people who previously felt more in control of their thievery as they only had to hand over a few quid to the 'guy in the pub'.

[Sirius]

The forums dedicated to stealing cable are reporting that one of the servers that has been setup to allow a form of sharing has been raided. Couple of quotes below

upc and police raided the premises of a box distributor in dublin who had the ********* server at his house on behalf of ****** satellite. the police and upc in a joint sting raided the premises & arrested several people & the ******* server was taken also.

It was a cable server not Sat

once upc have put the server on there own network, they will be able to see all the ip addresses & mac addresses that are connecting to the server. i bet 95% are using upc broadband also.

This shows that the servers can and will be found and shut down. This has happened very quickly which shows that the system is not safe for the thieving gits


Now lets see more of these raids happening

[joglynne]

It will be interesting to see what action is taken regarding the IP addresses & MAC addresses that are harvested as a result of the seizure of this server.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by joglynne

It will be interesting to see what action is taken regarding the IP addresses & MAC addresses that are harvested as a result of the seizure of this server.

Indeed

And if they send the servers aboard it does not take the brains of a Arch Bishop to track them and get them shut down by the isp who's network they are working on.

[TheDon]

Originally Posted by Sirius

And if they send the servers aboard it does not take the brains of a Arch Bishop to track them and get them shut down by the isp who's network they are working on.

In theory.

In practice though it requires the co-operation of the country that it's hosted in, and just ask the MPAA and RIAA how co-operative other countries are at shutting down copyright infringing services. There are many countries that just sit there and stick two fingers up at the requests and let them carry on regardless. It'll take an extensive court battle to get some countries ISPs to take a site offline (just look at the pirate bay) and by then there will simply be another in it's place.

This is why the DE bill has the potential to enforce site blocking, so we can just get UK isps to block access to the sites without having to go through the hoops of getting them shut down.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by TheDon

This is why the DE bill has the potential to enforce site blocking, so we can just get UK isps to block access to the sites without having to go through the hoops of getting them shut down.

Parts of that bill get my vote

You could also see attacks against the servers from anonymous sources as well

[joglynne]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Parts of that bill get my vote

You could also see attacks against the servers from anonymous sources as well

Now there's an idea. Somewhere that the hackers could play and get a thumbs-up for a change?

[Ignitionnet]

I find myself wondering if something similar to the IWF proxy could be set up to deal with known card sharing servers.

That it would immediately identify those using them is, of course, purely a bonus

If anyone wants technical details on this happy to provide, else I'm sure those in the know already know how the Cleanfeed box works

EDIT: This does of course assume it's not already in place. Could be automatic and effortless actually, all scripted and based on parsing packet captures.

2nd EDIT: No it can't, legal reasons.

[Horace]

Originally Posted by TheDon

In theory.

In practice though it requires the co-operation of the country that it's hosted in, and just ask the MPAA and RIAA how co-operative other countries are at shutting down copyright infringing services. There are many countries that just sit there and stick two fingers up at the requests and let them carry on regardless. It'll take an extensive court battle to get some countries ISPs to take a site offline (just look at the pirate bay) and by then there will simply be another in it's place.

This is why the DE bill has the potential to enforce site blocking, so we can just get UK isps to block access to the sites without having to go through the hoops of getting them shut down.

It's not and never has been clear-cut that the Piratebay does anything illegal, except allowing newbies to get themselves sued but that's a question of morality and not legality. Even in the UK you just have to look at what happened to Oink (administrator was found not guilty, others a slap on the wrists). Many countries take direct pay-tv theft much more seriously, mainly due to EU legislation but also self-interest since many of the major PAY TV operators have government involvement.
Cardsharing servers really need to be as local as possible, the same country preferably to work with any kind of reliability. This is certainly true of newer encryptions, older versions had a lot more leeway in terms of latency. I'm going to assume N3 was designed with defeating card sharing in mind, especially long range and if the servers are on British soil, prosecution should be straightforward.

[hedgie]

In Warrington the new cards have been rolled out yet the chap in the local layby bacon sandwich van still claims to be getting Sky Sports via a hookey VM box