David Cameron -hold your head in shame

Originally Posted by martyh

Depends on who you mean by "in need" .Many of those in need are ,if examined closely ,aren't as in need as you think

glad you said many there and not most. Have you done much examination recently you are on a council estate? Plenty of examples round me on mine of people in need. Living in virtual squalor undecorated houses no carpets damp. Private and Council the same. Paying more on electric metres because they struggle to pay the bills. Having to choose to be warm or eat. This is a reality. And some of those are going to be losing money soon so it will be even worse

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

glad you said many there and not most. Have you done much examination recently you are on a council estate? Plenty of examples round me on mine of people in need. Living in virtual squalor undecorated houses no carpets damp. Private and Council the same. Paying more on electric metres because they struggle to pay the bills. Having to choose to be warm or eat. This is a reality. And some of those are going to be losing money soon so it will be even worse

and how many of those will be living in squalor because they think more about getting booze ,fags ,drugs and other non essentials .I have repeatedly said that in the course of my work over at least 15yrs doing refurbs on council properties i have seen people living as you describe but they still manage to have 200 tabs and a box of beer ,they still go down the club on a saturday night and still manage a tv/bb subscription ,just don't see putting a bit of paint on the walls and getting a cheap carpet as essential

perhaps you are hitting on the psychological cost of despair

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

perhaps you are hitting on the psychological cost of despair

No ,i am hitting on the fact that different people have different priorities .Your previous post assumed that people live like that because they are forced to by financial circumstances ,i maintain that ,whilst that may be true for some equally some choose to spend the money given by the state on fags ,booze ,drugs ,tv subs and nights in the pub ,and then blame the state because they have no carpets and paint on the walls .Because someone lives in squallor does not mean they always desperate .I have a brother in law exactly like that.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Many years ago, l worked for a deep cleaning company and worked at the Houses of Parliament for three months.

The amount of money that is waisted there is a disgrace, We were amongst FIVE companies doing the SAME work, towards the end of each day, food is thrown away which could have been given to the needy and the alcohol that is bought is not the stuff you buy out of Tescos.

Just before l started my present job (which is under threat) l delivered wine to them and my god it was always the best stuff.

And there was always building work going on.

The coalition have no problems in spending money on them self, but to us its freeze it here and there, last year an MP had his office redecorated at rolls of wallpaper at £300.00 per roll, now if people have never been inside the offices there, there offices are as big as a large house.

Now why do they get better options than us, IF they want us to have cuts, then it should start at the top or is it too good for them to go to Tesco for there sandwichs.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Many years ago, l worked for a deep cleaning company and worked at the Houses of Parliament for three months.

The amount of money that is waisted there is a disgrace, We were amongst FIVE companies doing the SAME work, towards the end of each day, food is thrown away which could have been given to the needy and the alcohol that is bought is not the stuff you buy out of Tescos.

Just before l started my present job (which is under threat) l delivered wine to them and my god it was always the best stuff.

And there was always building work going on.

The coalition have no problems in spending money on them self, but to us its freeze it here and there, last year an MP had his office redecorated at rolls of wallpaper at £300.00 per roll, now if people have never been inside the offices there, there offices are as big as a large house.

Now why do they get better options than us, IF they want us to have cuts, then it should start at the top or is it too good for them to go to Tesco for there sandwichs.

Respect to you Arthur.
you've done and worked everywhere!

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Over the years l have worked in Kitchen Hygiene (not a dishwasher or like that, if a any kitchen was condemded by the Health dept, then it would be the company that l worked for would go and clean the crap up, thats why l was at the Houses of Parliament), window cleaner, wine delivery driver, wheel clamping, and worked for a beer company and now l work for the public service.

I have Four years to go before l pack up, and if this awful government has there way it will be moved to five/six years so they won't pay my pension till then and l will have to live on a paltry !50.00 per week with my wife.

I have worked all my life and putting thousands of pounds to the various government and keeping various PMs in luxury and yet when l live they will let to scrimp and scrapped, and l think that is a disgrace.