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Arthurgray50@blu 10-02-2013 19:34

David Cameron -hold your head in shame
 
Bedroom tax: The heart-wrenching letter that shames David Cameron www.sunday people.co.uk


I would suggest that readers this letter that is in todays edition of the papers, yes some people may say this could be exaggerating, but this is Cameron trying to get money from the vulnerable, and not produce a Mansion Tax for the rich.

It brought tears to my eyes.

Hugh 10-02-2013 19:38

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-david-1647647

Sirius 10-02-2013 20:10

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35534805)
Bedroom tax: The heart-wrenching letter that shames David Cameron www.sunday people.co.uk


I would suggest that readers this letter that is in todays edition of the papers, yes some people may say this could be exaggerating, but this is Cameron trying to get money from the vulnerable, and not produce a Mansion Tax for the rich.

It brought tears to my eyes.

Why did i know this was one of your threads before i had even opened it, Because its a anti Tory rant that's why.

MalteseFalcon 10-02-2013 20:25

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Whilst I have sympathy for the woman in the story linked to; I can see the thinking behind introducing this policy. Yet, as in all policies, innocent people get caught up in it. She has a bona fide claim to stay there, but I think this policy was actually aimed at those who take multi-bed properties, depriving families in need.

tizmeinnit 10-02-2013 20:28

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35534823)
Why did i know this was one of your threads before i had even opened it, Because its a anti Tory rant that's why.


I see absolutely nothing wrong with an Anti Tory anything to be honest. :-)

Sirius 10-02-2013 20:43

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Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35534835)
I see absolutely nothing wrong with an Anti Tory anything to be honest. :-)

Maybe and that's your choice, but its the only posts we get from Arthur and it gets boring to be honest. I would not mind so much if he at least linked to the stories he ranting about in the first place.

Arthurgray50@blu 10-02-2013 21:02

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Sirius, The rant was about the policies that David Cameron is bringing out which destroy people, its was also about the story in the paper.

You only have to read the comment to see the harshness about it, Its ok for him to bring out policies that harm people, but there is comment about bringing out a Mansion Tax for the rich, as they know that if they did that, all the donation would stop.

So, therefore they bring out all this crap that effects all the people that have worked all there lives and get treated poorly.

For example l had to go to hospital on Monday, for something major, but was turned away as they had closed down my emergency dept due to cut backs and had to see my GP instead as l am in severe pain.

This Government is pathetic.

Gary L 10-02-2013 22:15

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35534840)
Maybe and that's your choice, but its the only posts we get from Arthur and it gets boring to be honest.

It's a good thing. it shows that he's passionate and caring for his fellow man.

It's looking very likely that Dave is gonna be out on his ear long before Xmas at this rate :)

Osem 10-02-2013 22:22

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35534840)
Maybe and that's your choice, but its the only posts we get from Arthur and it gets boring to be honest. I would not mind so much if he at least linked to the stories he ranting about in the first place.

Don't worry, he's just making up for 13 years of silence... ;) :D

Ramrod 10-02-2013 22:23

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35534844)
For example l had to go to hospital on Monday, for something major, but was turned away as they had closed down my emergency dept due to cut backs and had to see my GP instead as l am in severe pain.

This Government is pathetic.

iirc, these cutbacks are in part needed because Prudence Brown and his freedom sucking leeches spent all the money

Arthurgray50@blu 10-02-2013 22:54

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I am getting so fed up with people sticking up for Cameron, blaming previous government for the mess we are in today. Absolute *****( CFT l apologise for the language).

This government will NOT get back in, they are bringing out policies that are tearing this country to pieces and hitting the poor, and yet the rich can thrive like anything.

Nothing is being done towards getting Britain back to work, yet all his policies are hitting the vulnerable, such as the lady in the papers, His cutbacks are hitting the hospitals now, yesterday there was a major protest outside Ealing Hospital., as the hospital is facing the axe.

This is a major London Hospital, so if there is a major accident in London where are thwe LAS going to go - no where. there won't be any hospitals left.

Jimmy-J 10-02-2013 23:08

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35534896)
I am getting so fed up with people sticking up for Cameron, blaming previous government for the mess we are in today.

That's always been the case, no matter what colour the rosette.

nomadking 10-02-2013 23:17

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35534896)
I am getting so fed up with people sticking up for Cameron, blaming previous government for the mess we are in today. Absolute *****( CFT l apologise for the language).

This government will NOT get back in, they are bringing out policies that are tearing this country to pieces and hitting the poor, and yet the rich can thrive like anything.

Nothing is being done towards getting Britain back to work, yet all his policies are hitting the vulnerable, such as the lady in the papers, His cutbacks are hitting the hospitals now, yesterday there was a major protest outside Ealing Hospital., as the hospital is facing the axe.

This is a major London Hospital, so if there is a major accident in London where are thwe LAS going to go - no where. there won't be any hospitals left.

Nothing to do with cutbacks.:erm:
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Osem 11-02-2013 08:07

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Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35534897)
That's always been the case, no matter what colour the rosette.

Arthur's still trying to propagate the delusion that nothing went wrong under Labour and it's all down to the Tories. He refuses to acknowledge the debacle at the Staffs hospital (and others) in which many hundreds people died and were treated appallingly happened when Labour were in office. At the same time he routinely demands Cameron's head and the govt. be removed from office every time some red top prints a story about someone somewhere losing out. Ask Arthur why Labour has been so quiet over the Staffs. revelations and suddenly he's got nothing to say.

In his rose tinted world PFI, illegal wars, the banking crisis and the nation's massive debts weren't down to the failures of a govt of 13 years, they were all down to the previous govt. Odd how he seems to have forgotten that absurd 'logic' 3 years into a new govt tasked with trying to undo so much which went wrong in more than a decade whilst wrestling with a massive economic crisis. The supreme irony in Arthur claiming to be fed up with people constantly defending Cameron is lost on him and says everything about the sort of person he is and the quality of his argument.

There's really no point trying to educate or even respond to Arthur, he's proved himself as unable/unwilling to accept reality and post rational and coherent comment as he is to provide links. Politicians love people like Arthur because they know they'll just carry on putting their little cross in the same box no matter what.

peanut 11-02-2013 08:24

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35534946)
Arthur's still trying to propagate the delusion that nothing went wrong under Labour and it's all down to the Tories. He refuses to acknowledge the debacle at the Staffs hospital (and others) in which many hundreds people died and were treated appallingly happened when Labour were in office. At the same time he routinely demands Cameron's head and the govt. be removed from office every time some red top prints a story about someone somewhere losing out.

In his rose tinted world PFI, illegal wars, the banking crisis and the nation's massive debts weren't down to the failures of a govt of 13 years, they were all down to the previous govt. Odd how he seems to have forgotten that absurd 'logic' 3 years into a new govt tasked with trying to undo so much which went wrong in more than a decade whilst wrestling with a massive economic crisis.

There's really no point trying to educate or even respond to Arthur, he's proved himself as unable/unwilling to accept reality and post rational and coherent comment as he is to provide links. Politicians love people like Arthur because they know they'll just carry on putting their little cross in the same box no matter what.

Whilst you're half right and I agree with what you're saying, but putting the blame onto past govt seems to be a bit of a cop out, it's always the same. Arthur is also right in saying that this govt is picking on the most vulnerable and in true Tory style the rich are seemingly untouched. Also the new measures so far are ill thought out, but again it doesn't matter much as it's only those at the bottom of the pile is going to be affected the most, so you're saying just push the blame elsewhere and just so everything seems fair doesn't it.

And does it matter if Arthur start threads about subject matters that are current and is affecting a lot of people. At least it gives this forum a purpose to discuss these matters. It is much more boring and annoying to hear the same people moaning and responding about 'Arthur threads' without contributing to the actual subject. If you don't like his posts, then put him on ignore and move on.


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