General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 4 - Page 58

OLD BOY · 26-12-2014, 20:58

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch

Lol, still banging on about that one, solitary report. If it happens it probably has very little to do with that report from the autumn before last. Iirc, was that report not about the back haul of internet services?

The Broadcast report was one of those I'm referring to. The back haul services was a separate report and simply demonstrated increasing co-operation between the companies.

It wasn't me who raised this matter again, I was simply answering a post, and on the contrary, if SA does turn up in January, it all stems from those negotiations. It has taken so long to take into account the launch of the Now box if I am right about this.

vincerooney · 26-12-2014, 20:59

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

It's not a nonsense theory at all, Vince, and in fact I have been saying this, much to the annoyance of a sector of this forum, for some time.

However, the talks that have taken place with Sky have been in secret and so it is impossible for anyone to say for sure, but I think things started to change last year, and the results of these negotiations may well be seen next month. If my suspicions are correct, we should be getting all the missing Sky channels, including Atlantic and Sky 1+1.

However, if this doesn't happen early in the New Year, I think I will finally have to concede defeat on this theory which is based on earlier reports that have been discussed in this forum. I do think these reports have some basis in fact but I won't be able to prove this until it happens.

Aye it makes sense oldboy. I still think this is what happened with bt sport and virgin media. a sort of we'll do the deal to be in XL but keep quiet, announce it on the day of launch and we'll use the time to bang our drum that bt sport is exclusive to BT and how VM customers cant get it.

If so its a strategy VM have done before to acquire channels. Once the christmas period is over the missing sky core channels could be announced...fingers crossed. always good to discuss though!

OLD BOY · 26-12-2014, 21:02

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Originally Posted by vincerooney

Aye it makes sense oldboy. I still think this is what happened with bt sport and virgin media. a sort of we'll do the deal to be in XL but keep quiet, announce it on the day of launch and we'll use the time to bang our drum that bt sport is exclusive to BT and how VM customers cant get it.

If so its a strategy VM have done before to acquire channels. Once the christmas period is over the missing sky core channels could be announced...fingers crossed. always good to discuss though!

Exactly, Vince.

harry_hitch · 26-12-2014, 21:10

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The Broadcast report was one of those I'm referring to. The back haul services was a separate report and simply demonstrated increasing co-operation between the companies.

It wasn't me who raised this matter again, I was simply answering a post, and on the contrary, if SA does turn up in January, it all stems from those negotiations. It has taken so long to take into account the launch of the Now box if I am right about this.

Indeed you were just replying to a post, as was I. Care to share which other reports you were referring to?

OLD BOY · 26-12-2014, 23:14

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch

Indeed you were just replying to a post, as was I. Care to share which other reports you were referring to?

Oh, come on, we've been through all this. Let's just wait and see.

27-12-2014, 01:49

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Originally Posted by nodrogd

Makes me wonder what will happen when the BBC launches BBC1+1 to replace BBC3 next year. Are they going to put a loop into each regional centre to delay local output by an hour? ITV have shied away from doing this due to costs in some areas.

If they replace BBC 3 with BBC 1 +1, the plans are for a part-time service from 8PM, conveniently missing the early evening regional news variations. The 10 minute news opt outs following the 10PM news broadcast wouldn't really justify the cost of any extra infrastructure required to provide a fully regional +1 service on cable and satellite. A fully regional service on Freeview would be relatively simple to introduce, the multiplex carrying the service is already regional. It's unlikely, however, that the BBC would provide a regional service on only one platform.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The Broadcast report was one of those I'm referring to.

A Broadcast report isn't a guarantee that something is going to happen. They will take a good journalistic approach and report what seems to be a possible outcome of negotiations taking place at a given point in time. The actual outcome of the negotiations may actually be very different to what is reported at an early stage. The report to which you refer would have had little merit if the suggested outcome didn't materialise within, say, 3 months. After 6 months the validity period has well and truly expired. To trust it after around 18 months is incredibly optimistic. But we can all dream.

johnathome · 27-12-2014, 02:09

If bbc3 goes internet only i hope there would be a streaming option for freeview, like MotorsTV and Vintage TV, i'd be happy with that.

1andrew1 · 27-12-2014, 09:55

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Originally Posted by jj20x

A Broadcast report isn't a guarantee that something is going to happen. They will take a good journalistic approach and report what seems to be a possible outcome of negotiations taking place at a given point in time. The actual outcome of the negotiations may actually be very different to what is reported at an early stage. The report to which you refer would have had little merit if the suggested outcome didn't materialise within, say, 3 months. After 6 months the validity period has well and truly expired. To trust it after around 18 months is incredibly optimistic. But we can all dream.

Fair points. I assume the Broadcast article in question this one from 27 June 2013? As far as I'm aware, it was the only article on the subject.
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/virgin...057814.article

harry_hitch · 27-12-2014, 11:32

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Oh, come on, we've been through all this. Let's just wait and see.

It may well come, but it will have nothing to do with those negotiations mentioned in that report. It will be due to the customer surveys sent out by e-mail to people (a couple of us on here received them) asking what customers wanted in return for a big price increase. Plus they would have had to cave into Sky's asking price too. If VM got Atlantic at a reduced price, all the other suppliers would want it at that price too.

johnathome · 27-12-2014, 12:07

Well the big price increase is happening in February so let's see what turns up.

harry_hitch · 27-12-2014, 12:18

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Originally Posted by johnathome

Well the big price increase is happening in February so let's see what turns up.

Indeed. From the questions I was asked, we could a receive a number of different services. SA, was just one of a number of options. We may of course get nothing.

andy_m · 27-12-2014, 13:31

It will be nothing. There's no need to soften the blow of price rises in February, because everybody will be used to the idea by then and since nothing was announced or rumoured around the time that this year's rises were announced I, personally, think it's fair to conclude that they aren't linked to anything other than the ongoing provision of current services.

telegramsam · 27-12-2014, 16:54

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Originally Posted by paultrademark

Yes you have, just don't watch live TV and stick to catch up.

You still need a licence to watch catch up tv!

paultrademark · 27-12-2014, 17:01

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Originally Posted by telegramsam

You still need a licence to watch catch up tv!

Erm no you don't

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If you only ever watch ‘on demand’ programmes, you don’t need a TV Licence. On demand includes catch-up TV, streaming or downloading programmes after they’ve been shown on live TV, or programmes available online before being shown on TV.

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-i...nd-online-top8

telegramsam · 27-12-2014, 17:31

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Originally Posted by paultrademark

Erm no you don't

I stand corrected. However what are you going to watch it on? You can`t watch on a tv set as it is able to receive live tv. The same with a laptop/pc. I can`t think of anyway of watching catch up without live tv not being possible to watch.

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-i...nd-online-top8