1GB Cap Letter!!!! - Page 48

Florence · 12-03-2005, 17:32

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Originally Posted by Paul M

erm, like I said, if applicable (i.e from the 1M to the 2M).

that is all they can upgrade the 2mb can't upgrade like I orignally planned if 30gig wasn't enough with 4 sharing the connection.

Ignition · 12-03-2005, 18:09

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Originally Posted by Doofy

Would there be any chance of NTL offering an extra Tier for the power users, that have to download 24/7.

It's called a leased line. No-one short of a pretty large business needs to be downloading 24/7, infact a lot of the business usage graphs I've seen pale in comparison to a lot of the heavier residential users, although that's what having to use a connection for business purposes rather than warez does.

Considering these guys are paying hundreds of pounds a month for their services, the only advantage they have is the service level guarantee really.

Didn't this thread die a very long time ago?

Don't we already have an *all* cap related thread open?!?!

12-03-2005, 18:27

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Originally Posted by Ignition

It's called a leased line. No-one short of a pretty large business needs to be downloading 24/7, infact a lot of the business usage graphs I've seen pale in comparison to a lot of the heavier residential users, although that's what having to use a connection for business purposes rather than warez does.

Considering these guys are paying hundreds of pounds a month for their services, the only advantage they have is the service level guarantee really.

Didn't this thread die a very long time ago?

Don't we already have an *all* cap related thread open?!?!

Dont spoil it

I have had my deck chair out waiting for the normal anti cap members to turn up

KingPhoenix · 12-03-2005, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Paul M

erm, like I said, if applicable (i.e from the 1M to the 2M).

Eh???

Your logic makes NO sense...

so if theyre on 1mb, and they are constantly downloading more than 1Gb per day..... if they upgrade to 2Mb what happens??? oh thats right... they're still only aloud 1Gb per day so will get to it faster... why on earth would ntl make this an option???

NTL : Hi, you have been going over your 1Gb per day bandwidth allowance too often

Customer : Im ever so sorry, what should i do?

NTL : Well you can upgrade if you, this will mean you can download even more

Customer : Yeah ok, sounds like a good idea....

jtwn · 12-03-2005, 19:26

1mb from now looks to be hard capped, 2mb/3mb are 'guideline usage'.

Stuart · 12-03-2005, 19:45

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Originally Posted by KingPhoenix

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Originally Posted by Paul M

erm, like I said, if applicable (i.e from the 1M to the 2M).

Eh???

Your logic makes NO sense...

so if theyre on 1mb, and they are constantly downloading more than 1Gb per day..... if they upgrade to 2Mb what happens??? oh thats right... they're still only aloud 1Gb per day so will get to it faster... why on earth would ntl make this an option???

NTL : Hi, you have been going over your 1Gb per day bandwidth allowance too often

Customer : Im ever so sorry, what should i do?

NTL : Well you can upgrade if you, this will mean you can download even more

Customer : Yeah ok, sounds like a good idea....

Err, the 1Mb service is capped at 3 Gig per month. I believe the customer also has the option of reducing their speed to 56K or paying extra to download more.

KingPhoenix · 12-03-2005, 19:56

ahhhh.... my bad...

but still... are NTL really gonna recommend that people upgrade to 3mb from 2mb?? that would be ludicrous... they must have some sort of "over usage purchase" option.... rather than charging per Gb :S

And also, is this about them looking after all their clients? or charging the heavy users more? i.e. if i paid the overusage, im still gonna do as much damage to the other people... but ntl would pocket more

Mooncow · 12-03-2005, 21:44

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Originally Posted by jtwn

1mb from now looks to be hard capped, 2mb/3mb are 'guideline usage'.

really?

can i have an opinion please
if i upgrade for free (on 300k atm) will i recieve a cap at all, or is the cap already in place?

I don't want 3GB a month, if i stay on 300k will i still have the current/no cap?

**Paul** · 12-03-2005, 22:01

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Originally Posted by KingPhoenix

ahhhh.... my bad...

Apology accepted.

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Originally Posted by KingPhoenix

but still... are NTL really gonna recommend that people upgrade to 3mb from 2mb?? that would be ludicrous...

There is no difference in the 2M/3M service as far as usage is concerned, so no, it wouldn't be a sensible option, and as far as I know, no one said it would be. (hence the words if applicable)

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Originally Posted by KingPhoenix

And also, is this about them looking after all their clients? or charging the heavy users more? i.e. if i paid the overusage, im still gonna do as much damage to the other people... but ntl would pocket more

As far as I can see, it's a way to discourage heavy users, people will think twice when it's going to cost them more. I'm 100% sure that ntl would like the heavy users to leave for other ISP's.

Stuart · 12-03-2005, 22:04

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Originally Posted by Mooncow

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Originally Posted by jtwn

1mb from now looks to be hard capped, 2mb/3mb are 'guideline usage'.

really?

can i have an opinion please
if i upgrade for free (on 300k atm) will i recieve a cap at all, or is the cap already in place?

I don't want 3GB a month, if i stay on 300k will i still have the current/no cap?

I think the current 300K service will stay around for the forseeable future and will have a 30 Gig a month cap. The 1Mb service has a 3 Gig cap for the same price. You could say it's Swings and Roundabouts. Each has an advantage and disadvantage.

KingPhoenix · 12-03-2005, 22:24

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Originally Posted by Paul M

Apology accepted.

There is no difference in the 2M/3M service as far as usage is concerned, so no, it wouldn't be a sensible option, and as far as I know, no one said it would be. (hence the words if applicable)

As far as I can see, it's a way to discourage heavy users, people will think twice when it's going to cost them more. I'm 100% sure that ntl would like the heavy users to leave for other ISP's.

Hmmm i suppose, but then surely in the long run, they would lose that money...

I wonder how much of their BB network is built up of "heavy" users.....

Chrysalis · 14-03-2005, 01:03

Upgrade to business lite, where its unmetered for parts of the day, get a paper contract which shows them allowing you to use for home purposes so if later someone decides to boot you off for not using for business purposes then you have something legal to make that invalid.

Downside is high install fee and 2 year contract, but it is an option that doesnt cost an arm and a leg for those who cant get ADSL.

Ignition I have to ask if this question if you could possibly answer it please as I have seen others ask but with no response, what would NTL do in a situation where AOL cable users who of course have no cap are saturating a ubr, and an upgrade is very expensive.

Ignition · 14-03-2005, 06:59

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Ignition I have to ask if this question if you could possibly answer it please as I have seen others ask but with no response, what would NTL do in a situation where AOL cable users who of course have no cap are saturating a ubr, and an upgrade is very expensive.

I can't actually do corporate policy, customer support, engineering, etc, etc, all at once. There is fair use in the AOL T+Cs though, draw from that what you will.

samuel · 21-03-2005, 11:57

Hopefully all you big users and moaners will leave Ntl and we will all benefit then. There is a download cap to make it fair for all. Anyone whose teenage children are downloading all the time are probably breaking the law anyway - it is illegal to download movies etc from a lot of the sites the kids use. (I know not all is illegal, but I doubt many kids pay for it). Ntl speeds are far superior to any others, and if you go to Bt or other I hope you live nice and close to the (hee hee). Can't wait to see Bt's results from their ADSL 2+ trials!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technolog...665.stmxchange

Stephen · 21-03-2005, 13:03

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Originally Posted by samuel

Hopefully all you big users and moaners will leave Ntl and we will all benefit then. There is a download cap to make it fair for all. Anyone whose teenage children are downloading all the time are probably breaking the law anyway - it is illegal to download movies etc from a lot of the sites the kids use. (I know not all is illegal, but I doubt many kids pay for it). Ntl speeds are far superior to any others, and if you go to Bt or other I hope you live nice and close to the (hee hee). Can't wait to see Bt's results from their ADSL 2+ trials!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technolog...665.stmxchange

Who is moaning. NTL are increasing the speeds but starting to impose caps. Other companies are also increasing the speed but no caps, I do not see the point in this. Also if reports are true NTL are also testing ADSL2 so take from that what you will. NTL also have 95% of customers connected to copper where as BT only have 90%.