1GB Cap Letter!!!!

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Affraid I have to agree, I signed a contract for unlimited, that is what it is to me as far as I am concerned.
There is now a strong definition in the BB market now, sadly for NTL I signed my contract before they changed it.
If I wanted to download oodles, thats up to me, if they want to come heavy over it fair enough, we will see what the courts say, and I don't want someone telling me that NTL will not do it, so what is the problem then?
A contract is a contract, if they want to change that contract they can write to me in person asking me if I accept the terms and conditions, if they do not? tough luck, I will just carry on doing what I have been in the past.

Unfortunately, that was a fixed term contract (1 year). NTL would probably argue that you are free to leave NTL if you disagree with the changes, and I think (if I understand the Distance Selling laws correctly) the court would find in favour of NTL. As I understand it, any company that sells you a product or service with a rolling contract is free to change the terms and conditions of that contract as long as they allow you to cancel it, and as long as they give reasonable notice (and lets face it, NTL started sending letters out a year after the news about the cap broke).

[jtwn]

Well..I think the cap is very fair in terms of bt's stupid cap (not much point of having bb with that). I just feel that its just there to lay down a rule so that if somebody is using the service to excess then they have a term they can use to support their argument, otherwise it is also there to scare people like yourselves complaining. Isnt the letter sent out at 1gb per day for seven consecutive days in any give 14 day period? I may just be thinking of something else if that wrong, but still Id find it hard to understand why somebody is going to be downloading that much, unless they are, as said before, some kind of warez monkey. And...how are you going to fit all that amount on your hard drive over time?

I doubt there is much of a good reason for a residential connection to be downloading excessively like that. Unless you are creating an archive of things, i doubt you need to download so much so often and use the stuff you are downloading.

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by jtwn

I doubt there is much of a good reason for a residential connection to be downloading excessively like that. Unless you are creating an archive of things, i doubt you need to download so much so often and use the stuff you are downloading.

They may be using the connection for streaming media. I prefer to watch the TV or listen to the radio myself.

[OL1V3R]

Hehe, I sucked up loads of bandwith, wheyyy over a gig a day. Not one letter come through yet.

Probably because theres two people on my area that have broadband, im not sure -shrugs-

[Chris W]

hmm... just seen an aol advert, and they seems very keen on advertising that their broadband service was completely uncapped and therefore truly unlimited.

same that ntl lost this good selling point.

Well, until the court order comes through the door, or the letter offering me to cancel, I will just carry on, thats what I am paying my hard earned dosh for.
By the way, it isn't very hard to go over your limit, 1mb in my opinion is poo poo.

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by monkeybreath

hmm... just seen an aol advert, and they seems very keen on advertising that their broadband service was completely uncapped and therefore truly unlimited.

same that ntl lost this good selling point.

Constant stream of users inwards seems to suggest that with or without this selling point the uptake is ticking along nicely.

If anything AOL are redressing a balance on their service, your traditional AOL user isn't particularly bandwidth hungry and perhaps they have some room there for some more hungry users.

Attracting heavy users intentionally is certainly an interesting policy, however as far as ADSL services go there is plenty of similarly priced and unlimited competition there for AOL, as far as AOL over cable goes they pay ntl anyway so I don't think ntl will be crying too much over it all.

In my opinion usage restrictions are an important part of maintaining balance in a shared bandwidth environment, where there's room for flexibility all good however the ability to restrict insane usage should be there and should be exercised where appropriate.

Don't know if I was half asleep still when I turned the tv on this morning, but apparently, some geezers had transferred 4gb of information in a second!

So by NTL rules, nearly a weeks usage would be gone by the time you blink your eye, or click your mouse even!

[Foo Fighter]

Originally Posted by monkeybreath

hmm... just seen an aol advert, and they seems very keen on advertising that their broadband service was completely uncapped and therefore truly unlimited.

same that ntl lost this good selling point.

Yup i saw that, thought it was pretty good for AOL. Putting NTL and a few others to shame.

[Stephen]

Well on my 1MB connection I go over the 1GB almost everyday nothing yet, maybe no one around here has BB except me. full spped I can get nearly 2GB in 2 hrs.

[td444]

Do pass over your cm configuration file, Im sure i'd like to upload it to mine

Originally Posted by DarthYoda

Well on my 1MB connection I go over the 1GB almost everyday nothing yet, maybe no one around here has BB except me. full spped I can get nearly 2GB in 2 hrs.

[th'engineer]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherN00b

Constant stream of users inwards seems to suggest that with or without this selling point the uptake is ticking along nicely.

If anything AOL are redressing a balance on their service, your traditional AOL user isn't particularly bandwidth hungry and perhaps they have some room there for some more hungry users.

Attracting heavy users intentionally is certainly an interesting policy, however as far as ADSL services go there is plenty of similarly priced and unlimited competition there for AOL, as far as AOL over cable goes they pay ntl anyway so I don't think ntl will be crying too much over it all.

In my opinion usage restrictions are an important part of maintaining balance in a shared bandwidth environment, where there's room for flexibility all good however the ability to restrict insane usage should be there and should be exercised where appropriate.

So AOL users on cable modems are uncapped in respect of bandwidth yet NTL users are capped. It proves that NTL capped its own users to allow un capped use for AOL.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by th'engineer

So AOL users on cable modems are uncapped in respect of bandwidth yet NTL users are capped. It proves that NTL capped its own users to allow un capped use for AOL.

Except AOL have started specifying that you do need a BT line..

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by scastle

Except AOL have started specifying that you do need a BT line..

AOL Gold supplied via NTL cable doesn't need a telephone line at all.

Whilst AOL via NTL cable does not have a cap or suggested usage level it's T&Cs have a clause by which they could remove many abusers of the system.

AOL Broadband is not supplied to you:
(i) to operate a permanent Internet file server including without limitation HTTP, FTP, IRC or similar server
applications; or
(ii) to enable file or application sharing (whereby two or more computers share files or applications on the computer
you use to access AOL Broadband) where this adversely affects the enjoyment of either NTL customers or other AOL
Membersââ‚à ‚¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ use of AOL Broadband and/or the AOL Narrowband Service; or
(iii) to operate any application or use of AOL Broadband similar to those in (i) or (ii) which adversely affects the
enjoyment of other users of the NTL cable network or other AOL Membersââ‚à ‚¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ use of AOL Broadband and/or the AOL
Narrowband Service.
If you use AOL Broadband in any of the ways identified in (i), (ii), or (iii) above then AOL reserves its right to suspend
your use of AOL Broadband or to terminate immediately your use of AOL Broadband, where it is reasonable to do so.

[td444]

Originally Posted by ianathuth

AOL Gold supplied via NTL cable doesn't need a telephone line at all.

Whilst AOL via NTL cable does not have a cap or suggested usage level it's T&Cs have a clause by which they could remove many abusers of the system.

Literally all AOL users I know (6 of them) are very light users of the internet. Most heavy users wont touch AOL. Overall, it balances out, so I imagine that clause wont get used much