20-06-2004, 17:17
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Re: 1GB Cap Letter!!!!
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Originally Posted by Earwig
It is very easily done.
A dvd-r is 4.37GB it takes me about 15-20 hours to do that at about 80-90KB/s
If I was to get my full connection speed (Supposedly 120KB/s) then it would take this down to about 10-15 hours.
So I could download nearly 2 dvd's per day at a cost of about 9GB.
Like I said.....EASY!!
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I feel sorry for people on the same channel as you....
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20-06-2004, 20:03
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#632
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Re: 1GB Cap Letter!!!!
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Originally Posted by Earwig
It is very easily done.
A dvd-r is 4.37GB it takes me about 15-20 hours to do that at about 80-90KB/s
If I was to get my full connection speed (Supposedly 120KB/s) then it would take this down to about 10-15 hours.
So I could download nearly 2 dvd's per day at a cost of about 9GB.
Like I said.....EASY!!
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OK, how many days do you spend downloading for anywhere from 10-20 hours then? How many days do you need to download 4.37Gig of data?
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20-06-2004, 20:41
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#633
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Re: 1GB Cap Letter!!!!
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Originally Posted by stuey82
I don't understand why you would need to download so much everyday.  Oh well. lol
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General useage for some can easily do so, without them having to get anything illegal.
Take a few examples :
Linux ISO packages are stupidly big (talking at least 2 CDs) bar a few (slackware?). Legal content. Ok, it doesnt happen regularly, but it does happen.
Leaving your little chav sister on the internet via Broadband plus....for at least 5hrs, streaming video after video, thats easily 1gb+. Legal content.
Streaming Radio - thanks to most the FM bandwidth in the UK being filled with thrash - again, can eat a nice chunk. Again, legal.
Ebay auction visitors - who keep reloading page after page, can eat up bandwidth too.
These are just examples of general usage that could download gigs a day.
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20-06-2004, 20:44
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#634
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Re: 1GB Cap Letter!!!!
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Originally Posted by monkeybreath
I feel sorry for people on the same channel as you....
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You might see it from your own NTL monitoring software MB, but some area's really arent heavily contended, hence it doesnt have a knock-on effect should 2-5 users want to leech all day.
My area (cov ubr 5) has 400 users sharing a downstream. I checked it the other day, during peak time , only 11mbits~ was used.
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20-06-2004, 20:52
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#635
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Re: 1GB Cap Letter!!!!
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Originally Posted by td444
You might see it from your own NTL monitoring software MB, but some area's really arent heavily contended, hence it doesnt have a knock-on effect should 2-5 users want to leech all day.
My area (cov ubr 5) has 400 users sharing a downstream. I checked it the other day, during peak time , only 11mbits~ was used.
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this is true... but if Earwig's area is then i feel sorry for the other people! i haven't checked tbh... i only look if people report specific problems to me.
MB
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20-06-2004, 21:46
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#636
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Re: 1GB Cap Letter!!!!
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Originally Posted by td444
You might see it from your own NTL monitoring software MB, but some area's really arent heavily contended, hence it doesnt have a knock-on effect should 2-5 users want to leech all day.
My area (cov ubr 5) has 400 users sharing a downstream. I checked it the other day, during peak time , only 11mbits~ was used.
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td Yours is a very recently resegmented uBR with very few customers on it now and isn't representative. There are a number of areas, increasing regularly  which aren't contended heavily though thanks to reseg programs pre the speed upgrade
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20-06-2004, 21:54
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Re: 1GB Cap Letter!!!!
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Originally Posted by monkeybreath
this is true... but if Earwig's area is then i feel sorry for the other people! i haven't checked tbh... i only look if people report specific problems to me.
MB
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True, forgot NTL arent quite even across the playing field...mainly as mine has been ok lately.
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20-06-2004, 23:31
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Re: 1GB Cap Letter!!!!
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherN00b
td Yours is a very recently resegmented uBR with very few customers on it now and isn't representative. There are a number of areas, increasing regularly  which aren't contended heavily though thanks to reseg programs pre the speed upgrade 
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thanks - I have to say my connection has been very 'snappy' lately, I won't complain when that improves
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21-06-2004, 11:01
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Re: 1GB Cap Letter!!!!
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Originally Posted by homealone
thanks - I have to say my connection has been very 'snappy' lately, I won't complain when that improves 
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Possibly due to NTL disabling port 80 proxies...finally!
http://www.proxyinfo.co.uk/check.php - If you see your ip, its a direct connection. If not, unlucky.
Having said that, I find the Netapps caches to be very good and snappy.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d...cache.html#ntl has a list of those that are the old inktomi and those that are NetApps.
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22-06-2004, 20:58
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Re: 1GB Cap Letter!!!!
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Originally Posted by td444
You might see it from your own NTL monitoring software MB, but some area's really arent heavily contended, hence it doesnt have a knock-on effect should 2-5 users want to leech all day.
My area (cov ubr 5) has 400 users sharing a downstream. I checked it the other day, during peak time , only 11mbits~ was used.
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What monitoring software/site is it that allows you to see how many users and how much bandwidth is being used at any one time?
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22-06-2004, 21:16
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Re: 1GB Cap Letter!!!!
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Originally Posted by FrankieX
What monitoring software/site is it that allows you to see how many users and how much bandwidth is being used at any one time?
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Software that ntl has... not something that you can buy or download
EDIT: and  to the site!
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22-06-2004, 21:49
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Re: 1GB Cap Letter!!!!
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Originally Posted by td444
General useage for some can easily do so, without them having to get anything illegal.
Take a few examples :
Linux ISO packages are stupidly big (talking at least 2 CDs) bar a few (slackware?). Legal content. Ok, it doesnt happen regularly, but it does happen.
Leaving your little chav sister on the internet via Broadband plus....for at least 5hrs, streaming video after video, thats easily 1gb+. Legal content.
Streaming Radio - thanks to most the FM bandwidth in the UK being filled with thrash - again, can eat a nice chunk. Again, legal.
Ebay auction visitors - who keep reloading page after page, can eat up bandwidth too.
These are just examples of general usage that could download gigs a day.
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Good point... I didnt think of it like that.
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22-06-2004, 23:07
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#643
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Re: 1GB Cap Letter!!!!
Is the 1GB cap enforced regardless of circumstance, or do they only warn someone if the area has reached it's bandwidth limit?
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22-06-2004, 23:11
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#644
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Re: 1GB Cap Letter!!!!
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Originally Posted by FrankieX
Is the 1GB cap enforced regardless of circumstance, or do they only warn someone if the area has reached it's bandwidth limit?
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No....if your downloading reaches a point where it causes any concern, they will write to you in the first instance asking you to reduce it.
You won't get such a letter just for hitting 1gb once or twice, it's obvious patterns of consistently excessive useage they are looking for. In most cases this turns out to be people running businesses from home, I've had to deal with a couple myself.
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22-06-2004, 23:13
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#645
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Re: 1GB Cap Letter!!!!
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Originally Posted by Mark B
No....if your downloading reaches a point where it causes any concern, they will write to you in the first instance asking you to reduce it.
You won't get such a letter just for hitting 1gb once or twice, it's obvious patterns of consistently excessive useage they are looking for. In most cases this turns out to be people running businesses from home, I've had to deal with a couple myself.
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I believe officially it is over 1gig per day on 3 days in any 14 day period
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