Which of us belongs in prison?

[Nemesis]

so what is trespass supposed to mean then ?

and what are you allowed to do about it ?

[Ramrod]

Originally posted by orangebird
Allowing the other burglar to sue is just a kick in the face for those that have worked honestly their entire life - ie the taxpayers that are going to be paying for the rotten b*stards' legal aid...

I just had a policeman in who said that he'd like to get hold of the person who suggested that they sue.

[Stuart]

Originally posted by Nemesis
so what is trespass supposed to mean then ?

and what are you allowed to do about it ?

Call the police?

[Ramrod]

Originally posted by Nemesis
so what is trespass supposed to mean then ?

and what are you allowed to do about it ?

Bugger all apart from 'reasonable force' (the level of which has to be decided in a split second during a very stressful encounter-often with incomplete information to hand)

[Ramrod]

Originally posted by scastle
Call the police?

apparently in his case they weren't going to attend....I think....could be wrong.

[Nemesis]

From dictionary

tres·pa ss ( P ) Pronunciation Key (trsps, -ps)

intr.v. tres·pa ssed, tres·pa ss·ing, tres·pa ss·es

1. To commit an offense or a sin; transgress or err.

2. Law. To commit an unlawful injury to the person, property, or rights of another, with actual or implied force or violence, especially to enter onto another's land wrongfully.

3. To infringe on the privacy, time, or attention of another: †œI must... not trespass too far on the patience of a good-natured criticââ‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ÂÂ� (Henry Fielding).

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So trespass is defined, what can you as a householder do about it in law ?

[Stuart]

Originally posted by Ramrod
apparently in his case they weren't going to attend....I think....could be wrong.

I thought that the only reason the police were allowed to refuse to attend a call out is if they had so many false call outs from an address in nine months?

I know that London police operate such a system..

[Stuart]

Originally posted by Nemesis

So trespass is defined, what can you as a householder do about it in law ?

I honestly think that ,legally, the only thing we are allowed to do is call the police.

Or, as ramrod says above, use "reasonable force" which is always difficult to actually define..

[Enterian]

Originally posted by scastle
Possessions can be replaced

Not always, when we were burgled my wife lost jewellery given to her by her late father, that cannot be replaced, only substitued with similar items that don't have any sentimental value.

Enterian

[Mark W]

call me over simplistic, but if a burgular knew that if he was to enter a house, and the occupants would be cowering in a cupboard dialling 999, i dont think he'll be fussed about entering and taking what he wants.....

but if, on the other hand, he knows that if he enters a house, he has got a good chance of being shot/stabbed/maimed by oiling oil ( ) and if that happens he'll STILL be going down for attempted robbery, whilst the home owner gets away with a wagged finger - i somehow doubt said robber would be so keen no?

with this martin case, house breakers now seem to win both ways... they break in - if there is no resistance, they get what they want, if the house owner puts up a fight, they sue for damages....

generally im an advocate for turning the other cheek, but this is my HOME we are talking about. admittedly, at the moment that does not have a significant meaning as it will when i actually own my own home, and am raising a familiy in it but the theory still stands. Why should i sit back allow some **** to violate that and make me and one day my family be afraid in my own home?

[Nemesis]

Surely you have the right to protect your own property ?

If so how ?

[zoombini]

If you keep any form of weapon near your bed which would not normally be in a bedroom e.g. baseball bat, club, sword etc, then the police may prosecute you.

That sounds like just so much cods-wallop to me!

There are perfectly good & legal reasons for keeping a baseball bat, sword, club or other items that may be construed to be "weapons" in the bedroom.

Especially if you have children in the house, you simply keep them safe away from the kids who are not allowed in mummy/daddies bedroom.
Baseball bats are kept away from them to stop them hurting each other & only bought out when a game is played (or ya get burgled).

What may be considered to be a weapon outside the boundaries of the home often has perfectly legitimate uses inside it.

Household items can be found in any room within the house and have perfectly legitimate reasons for being there.
Just because they happen to still be there on the eve that you get an unwanted visit is purely circumstantial.

As is the unfortunate circumstance of the burglar walking into your baseball bat just as you were practising your swing methods because you cannot sleep (having told the rest of the household not to come downstairs as your practising "swinging your bat").



Jail me, go on I dare them...

I think we should petition the european courts for a similar constitution to the states & allow us to carry arms, legs & baseball bats within our own homes.

[zoombini]

Originally posted by Nemesis
Surely you have the right to protect your own property ?

If so how ?

If you are in the UK, you have no rights any more.

Originally posted by zoombini
If you are in the UK, you have no rights any more.

We used to but over the year's they have all been taken away and still being taken. Back to the Do Gooder thing it seems. Remember the days for instance when the police could clip kids around the ear for giving a bit of cheek. Now the kids just put two fingers up and laugh. Oh and now their saying you can't smack your own kids when their playing up. Well B@llocks. My son plays up and he knows what's coming

[Ramrod]

Originally posted by Defiant
We used to but over the year's they have all been taken away and still being taken. Back to the Do Gooder thing it seems. Remember the days for instance when the police could clip kids around the ear for giving a bit of cheek. Now the kids just put two fingers up and laugh. Oh and now their saying you can't smack your own kids when their playing up. Well B@llocks. My son plays up and he knows what's coming

yup.