Guilty x3 - Page 2

**Hugh** · 08-11-2006, 18:06

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Originally Posted by AntiSilence

LOL... No debate about it!

You're right

Seeing as Capital Punishment was abolished in 1969 (73 in NI), and Jack Straw signed the 6th protocol of the European Convention of Human Rights in Strasbourg in 1999 - this move formally abolished the death penalty in the UK.

In fact, at the last debate about it in the House of Commons in 1994, MPs voted 363 to 186 against its return for people who had murdered a policeman, and voted 403 to 159 against introduction of capital punishment for all murderers.

So, as you said - no debate about it!

08-11-2006, 18:06

I can see the point BB is making, and with this it does make it all fit into place.

**Hugh** · 08-11-2006, 18:15

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Originally Posted by BBKing

It will be interesting to see what the minimum term before parole will be. 35-40 years going on past experience, and pretty well deserved given the facts of the case.

I reserve the right to make a comparison between three non-terrorist Asians who actually did brutally murder someone and then denied it and the Bhorat case yesterday where he only fantasised about it and then pleaded guilty. Since they'll get about the same punishment this will again show up the ludicrously over-the-top nature of the Bhorat case.

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Originally Posted by timewarrior2001

I can see the point BB is making, and with this it does make it all fit into place.

Definitions of fantasy -

An imagined event or sequence of mental images, such as a daydream, usually fulfilling a wish or psychological need.
An unrealistic or improbable supposition.

Then we have the Guardian report -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/...941586,00.html

"Barot carried out extensive research and planning for the attacks, including reconnaissance visits to the US, use of the internet and visits to public and specialist libraries.
He wrote detailed documents on planned attacks in both countries, discovered on computer hard drives following his arrest in August 2004. Handwritten notes referring to chemical mixtures were also recovered. In the "gas limos project" document, recovered from a laptop during a counter terrorist operation in Gujrat, Pakistan, Barot wrote of the pandemonium that could be caused by a bomb exploding on a tube train travelling under the Thames."

"It is plainly a presentation for the consideration of the al-Qaida leadership in Pakistan for approval and funding for plans to acquire explosives, hazardous, radioactive, inflammable material for use in co-ordinated terrorist attacks," he added.
The gas limo blasts were to have been launched simultaneously with other attacks including a dirty bomb, an attack on trains and the hijacking of petrol tankers to ram into a target."

Seems a lot of hard work just for a "fantasy"?

AntiSilence · 08-11-2006, 18:15

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

You're right

Seeing as Capital Punishment was abolished in 1969 (73 in NI), and Jack Straw signed the 6th protocol of the European Convention of Human Rights in Strasbourg in 1999 - this move formally abolished the death penalty in the UK.

In fact, at the last debate about it in the House of Commons in 1994, MPs voted 363 to 186 against its return for people who had murdered a policeman, and voted 403 to 159 against introduction of capital punishment for all murderers.

So, as you said - no debate about it!

hatedbythemail · 08-11-2006, 18:50

can't trust that pinko rag the guardian though. we all know that :-)

Derek · 08-11-2006, 19:21

Hopefully they never see freedom again.

Evil beyond words.

**Hugh** · 08-11-2006, 19:53

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Originally Posted by hatedbythemail

can't trust that pinko rag the guardian though. we all know that :-)

or it's fellow-traveller readers

Escapee · 08-11-2006, 20:05

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Originally Posted by scuzz

"The 15-year-old schoolboy was snatched in Pollokshields, stabbed and then set on fire in March 2004."

Dear God... Where does this type of anger and hatred come from?!

It comes from Pakistan.

hatedbythemail · 08-11-2006, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Escapee

It comes from Pakistan.

where were these people born?

**Hugh** · 08-11-2006, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Escapee

It comes from Pakistan.

erm

- the killers came from Glasgow and Huddersfield, actually.

Here's an interesting link - the story of how they were captured
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6125660.stm
Faisal Mushtaq and Zeeshan Shahid hid out in a small village 10 miles from Tobateksingh called village 348. They must have thought nobody but nobody would find them there. They were wrong.
Of course what the two did not know was that their local MP Mohammed Sarwar hails from Tobateksingh so it wasn't long before he knew where they were.

hatedbythemail · 08-11-2006, 20:09

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

erm

- the killers came from Glasgow and Huddersfield, actually.

are they on the axis of evil?

**Hugh** · 08-11-2006, 20:14

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Originally Posted by hatedbythemail

are they on the axis of evil?

more like the camshaft of naughtiness!

hatedbythemail · 08-11-2006, 20:59

care to explain your comment escapee?

Xaccers · 08-11-2006, 21:04

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Originally Posted by hatedbythemail

care to explain your comment escapee?

Maddrasses in Pakistan have been found to teach anti european hatred and death, and there is some what of a "life is cheap" culture with honour killings and infanticide of girls.

hatedbythemail · 08-11-2006, 21:28

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

Maddrasses in Pakistan have been found to teach anti european hatred and death, and there is some what of a "life is cheap" culture with honour killings and infanticide of girls.

any suggestion of that happening here? im not going to defend these people. its an awful awful crime. but im not sure the country of their parents origin has anything to do with this. when its a white on asian/black attack do we suggest that evil comes from the uk?