Post-Brexit Thread

Originally Posted by Kursk

It has been wonderful observing the penny slowly and painfully dropping. Keeping one's gob shut might have been the better choice though .

Given the promises that where made in the build up to the referendum and for a number of years prior by a fair selection of MP's i really would have expected some kind of strategy by now .

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Originally Posted by Damien

And he'll quickly find that Nigel has no input or inside knowledge on the workings of the UK Government. Trade, Defense, Diplomacy. None of this is anything to do with Farage. So unless they're just going to engage in locker room talk then it's a wasted phone call.

This is just about feeding Farage's massive ego. A man who thinks two of the largest economies in the world, two members of the UN security council and two senior members of the NATO alliance should forego the State Department and Foreign Office, bypass the Secretary of State and the Foreign Secretary and ignore all the existing diplomatic ties and conduct affairs though him, Ol' Nigel, instead. He actually seemed quite upset that the Prime Minster of the United Kingdom chooses not to conduct her foreign policy though some jumped up egomaniac.

As for Steve Bannon it is a worrying sign of his amateurishness for the role.

It's a bit like when you go to America and a yank thinks you know his pal even though he lives 300 miles away because it's such a small country everyone must know everyone else

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Here's the 'memo' in full

http://news.sky.com/story/leaked-mem...ion/1479197701

It does make worrying reading

Originally Posted by papa smurf

got any pics of it on the side of a bus
you know we only believe whats written on the sides of buses -ding ding all aboard next stop brexit

I think you will find that was "aspirational" and "hyperbole"....

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by martyh

Here's the 'memo' in full
http://news.sky.com/story/leaked-mem...ion/1479197701
It does make worrying reading

Honestly, that piece of junk is written like a school essay; yet another private firm has been paid goodness knows how much public money for pontification and amateur projection in an administration it doesn't understand.

Have faith in the Civil Service; there are some seriously gifted and intelligent people working there who will be making/will have made proper and realistic assessment of the impact of Brexit on their Departments but it won't be available to anyone but the respective Permanent Secretary's and the Cabinet.

You may as well leak the Beano and social media will lap it up. Strewth.

Yes but good news on brexit is all made up and bad news is the gospel been that way for months and won't end anytime soon I'm getting to the point of being sick of the whole damn thing wake me up when we're out.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Yes but good news on brexit is all made up and bad news is the gospel been that way for months and won't end anytime soon I'm getting to the point of being sick of the whole damn thing wake me up when we're out.

We still need some evidence that the government actually know what they are doing ,i'm as optimistic as hell about life outside the EU but we still need some sort of strategy .The reason why stories like the leaked memo keep making headline news is because there is sod all else coming from the government

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Yes but good news on brexit is all made up and bad news is the gospel been that way for months and won't end anytime soon I'm getting to the point of being sick of the whole damn thing wake me up when we're out.

No, I've posted good news here before. Like this for example: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37988095

Google is to open a new headquarters building in London which could see 3,000 new jobs created by 2020.

The news comes as a major boost to Britain's technology sector.

Sundar Pichai, the chief executive of Google, told the BBC that the UK was still an attractive place to do business.

I think however bad news has a place in this too. We should criticise the government if we think they're doing a poor job. Brexit could well harm industries, bad Brexit could do even more damage and so we keep on them.

Brexit shouldn't be treated as a sacred cow beyond the rules of normal politics.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Damien

I think however bad news has a place in this too. We should criticise the government if we think they're doing a poor job. Brexit could well harm industries, bad Brexit could do even more damage and so we keep on them.

Brexit shouldn't be treated as a sacred cow beyond the rules of normal politics.

Yes some get way too precious on here IMO as praise will be given when it is due and likewise criticism will be given likewise when that is due.

[Anypermitedroute]

Could be another two years before we have two years of negotiations....
Brexit could be delayed for two years, Supreme Court judge warns
http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-cou...warns-10658698

[Anypermitedroute]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

and on that note

BREXIT BOOST: Google announces £1BILLION investment to defy Remainers’ gloom

The American company is the latest international heavyweight to defy the Remain campaign doom and gloom predictions over Britain freeing itself from Brussels rule by investing in the country.

Google has announced it will build a new headquarters in London creating 3,000 new jobs and pumping £1 billion into the economy.

It followed an announcement by Nissan will build the next Qashqai and X-Trail models at its Sunderland factory, protecting more than 7,000 jobs.

The Japanese Softbank, which recently acquired UK chip design company Arm Holdings for $32bn, also announced that it will base its new $100 billion tech fund in the UK.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/732...emainers-gloom

1 billion down just another 65 billion to go then on the lost deficit

Except this is google, they make a career of avoiding paying into an economy

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Kursk

It has been wonderful observing the penny slowly and painfully dropping. Keeping one's gob shut might have been the better choice though .

Looks like the penny has belatedly dropped for some with the Government admitting that the document was indeed commissioned by them. It's a bit hard to criticise an independent document commissioned by a Government committed to leaving the EU but I'm sure some will try and fail. http://news.sky.com/story/leaked-mem...ion/1479197701

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Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute

1 billion down just another 65 billion to go then on the lost deficit

Except this is google, they make a career of avoiding paying into an economy

It's great news and it's a terriffic coup for the Government. Congratulations to all concerned.
Word has it that Google has been promised something on the freedom of movement front; only time will tell if these rumours are true.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Looks like the penny has belatedly dropped for some with the Government admitting that the document was indeed commissioned by them. It's a bit hard to criticise an independent document commissioned by a Government committed to leaving the EU but I'm sure some will try and fail. [url]http://news.sky.com/story/leaked-memo-shows-governments-lack-of-brexit-plans-10658063/revision/1479197701[/url

Commissioned by the Government or not it is still worthless drivel. There you go, it wasn't hard to criticise it at all .

My guess is the consultants provided a junior with a superficial understanding of the machinations of the Civil Service and a report of about first year university research level was compiled for a no doubt exorbitant sum.

It will be useful to make a paper dart I suppose. I bet that crashes too.

[papa smurf]

it must be hard work constantly looking for ways to badmouth the uk ,this pathetic tantrum over loosing the referendum is becoming tedious we are all on the same bus now ding ding next stop brexit

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

it must be hard work constantly looking for ways to badmouth the uk ,this pathetic tantrum over loosing the referendum is becoming tedious we are all on the same bus now ding ding next stop brexit

You must get it out of your head that anybody is throwing tantrums and is trying to badmouth the UK as its absolutely nothing of the sort as we all have a right to debate the huge issues that come with Brexit and we will criticise or praise if it is due be it if some find it hard to take it on this forum but like a bad penny we ain't going away any time soon so you better get used to it.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Looks like the penny has belatedly dropped for some with the Government admitting that the document was indeed commissioned by them. It's a bit hard to criticise an independent document commissioned by a Government committed to leaving the EU but I'm sure some will try and fail. http://news.sky.com/story/leaked-mem...ion/1479197701.

I'm sure Sky have their own reasons for not fully updating their coverage of a story that developed throughout the day yesterday, but the current position - indeed, the position since well before tea time yesterday - is that the government did not commission this report and Deloitte did not have access to the Cabinet Office (a.k.a. Number 10) or any other government department.

It is being explained away as an unsolicited pitch document, frankly I think the current focus on the use of fake news in political campaigning is more instructive.

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Oh look, Deloitte's CEO went on the record as a Remainer earlier this year. Surprised? I almost was.

http://economia.icaew.com/news/febru...ecutive-pro-eu

[Anypermitedroute]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

it must be hard work constantly looking for ways to badmouth the uk ,this pathetic tantrum over loosing the referendum is becoming tedious we are all on the same bus now ding ding next stop brexit

Just like a bus it goes not a very direct route and ain't fast having to stop at various places on the way. Still the old folks Get it for free as usual and will find something else to whinge about