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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Why are they?
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If it's not the intention of racism why are those calling it out not racist?
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Today, 20:04
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#2522
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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If it's not the intention of racism why are those calling it out not racist?
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If the intention is racism those calling it out aren’t racist - like all those Republicans…
https://archive.ph/qGS3C
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The post was swiftly condemned Friday morning by Republicans in Congress, including Sen. Tim Scott (R-South Carolina), the sole Black Republican member of the Senate. Scott, who chairs the National Republican Senatorial Committee, called on the president to remove the post and said he was “praying” the video “was fake because it’s the most racist thing I’ve seen out of this White House.”
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Scott was not the only Republican in Congress to call for the removal of the video.
Rep. Michael Lawler (R-New York) wrote Friday morning in a post on X that Trump’s post “is wrong and incredibly offensive — whether intentional or a mistake — and should be deleted immediately with an apology offered.” Sen. Pete Ricketts (R-Nebraska) wrote on X that even if the post was a meme, “a reasonable person sees the racist context.” Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Mississippi) called the video “totally unacceptable.”
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Do you think depicting black people as apes is racist?
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Today, 20:07
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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The CBP internal assessment disagrees with your statement…
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/0...ew-immigration
Unless you think not moving is confronting someone…
And he was shot 5 seconds after someone called out "he’s got a gun!", and after the CBP agent took Pretti’s gun, so it wasn’t a split-second reaction…
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Not moving when in the middle of the road and when ordered by law enforcement is aggressive and confronting. Pretti did approach the officer that used the pepper spray. Just look at the other videos of his aggressive and deranged manner. He had form when dealing with ICE.
When the agent reacted and then fired the shots, Pretti's gun was still on him and he was not lying flat down on the ground and was still struggling around. Still presenting a potential risk.
At the point where the agent has his hand on his own gun, Pretti is on his knees, and the agent that removed Pretti's gun is hunched over and hasn't yet got the gun. The start of the reaction process would've been a fraction of second before any of that.
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Another protestor bit off the finger of an ICE agent. That's how deranged the protestors are.
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Today, 20:15
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Hugh
If the intention is racism those calling it out aren’t racist - like all those Republicans…
https://archive.ph/qGS3C
Do you think depicting black people as apes is racist?
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Chimpanzees have white skin.
Biden was also portrayed, so how that fit?
As your previous post points out, the full video is of Trump as "King of the Jungle", with Democrats featuring as various animals.
Now compare with all the things said about various Republicans.
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Today, 20:21
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by nomadking
Chimpanzees have white skin.
Biden was also portrayed, so how that fit?
As your previous post points out, the full video is of Trump as "King of the Jungle", with Democrats featuring as various animals.
Now compare with all the things said about various Republicans.
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Your contrarianism is entertaining sometimes. Other times it’s just tedious. Comparing black people to primates is one of the most ancient of racist tropes. Nobody - nobody - in a country like the USA does *not* know that. “Hiding” this jibe against the Obamas in plain sight by surrounding it with other similar images does little more than give fodder to the useful idiots they know will jump in and defend it. Take away from that what you will.
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Today, 20:23
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Chris
Your contrarianism is entertaining sometimes. Other times it’s just tedious. Comparing black people to primates is one of the most ancient of racist tropes. Nobody - nobody - in a country like the USA does *not* know that. “Hiding” this jibe against the Obamas in plain sight by surrounding it with other similar images does little more than give fodder to the useful idiots they know will jump in and defend it. Take away from that what you will.
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So what is comparing Biden to an ape mean?
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Today, 20:31
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Re: President Trump 2.0
People are backwards I swear
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Today, 20:37
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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So what is comparing Biden to an ape mean?
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It means there’s just enough camouflage around the racist insult to make total idiots think the racist insult isn’t there.
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Today, 20:58
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by nomadking
Not moving when in the middle of the road and when ordered by law enforcement is aggressive and confronting. Pretti did approach the officer that used the pepper spray. Just look at the other videos of his aggressive and deranged manner. He had form when dealing with ICE.
When the agent reacted and then fired the shots, Pretti's gun was still on him and he was not lying flat down on the ground and was still struggling around. Still presenting a potential risk.
At the point where the agent has his hand on his own gun, Pretti is on his knees, and the agent that removed Pretti's gun is hunched over and hasn't yet got the gun. The start of the reaction process would've been a fraction of second before any of that.
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Another protestor bit off the finger of an ICE agent. That's how deranged the protestors are.
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There is absolutely nothing aggressive from Pretti at all. He simply tried to help a woman up and then got pepper sprayed multiple times and jumped on by 5-6 thugs, he was the one being assaulted. I suppose you think that ICE behaviour here was perfectly fine and acceptable? The actual police would not have behaved in that manor, as they actually have more training on how to deal with such situations and aren't just armed thugs.
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Today, 21:26
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Stephen
There is absolutely nothing aggressive from Pretti at all. He simply tried to help a woman up and then got pepper sprayed multiple times and jumped on by 5-6 thugs, he was the one being assaulted. I suppose you think that ICE behaviour here was perfectly fine and acceptable? The actual police would not have behaved in that manor, as they actually have more training on how to deal with such situations and aren't just armed thugs.
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He didn't go to help anybody. He approached and confronted the agent, who then pepper sprayed him. Have you seen his other examples of behaviour towards ICE?
Only 2 or 3 or perhaps 4, agents made any physical contact with him.
The struggles the agents had trying to restrain him, show how aggressive he was. If you're carrying a gun and get involved with law enforcement, you behave yourself, to avoid any potential misunderstandings.
Difficult to pin down examples, because different words that can be used and are ones that are commonly used elsewhere in other ways.
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“Put your hands behind your back. Don’t move!” McGowan can be heard shouting in the video. “He’s got a gun, he’s got a gun!”
Despite the man’s repeated denials that he was carrying a weapon, officers later recovered a firearm from his waistband. A struggle ensued between the man and the officers, with McGowan repeatedly warning him that she would shoot if he continued resisting.
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Today, 22:01
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by nomadking
He didn't go to help anybody. He approached and confronted the agent, who then pepper sprayed him. Have you seen his other examples of behaviour towards ICE?
Only 2 or 3 or perhaps 4, agents made any physical contact with him.
The struggles the agents had trying to restrain him, show how aggressive he was. If you're carrying a gun and get involved with law enforcement, you behave yourself, to avoid any potential misunderstandings.
Difficult to pin down examples, because different words that can be used and are ones that are commonly used elsewhere in other ways.
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None of that happened in Pretti's situation though. So it is totally irrelevant he was also not being aggressive at all. All the aggression was against him.
I am sure you would struggle and panic too having been pepper sprayed, beaten and then pinned to the ground by multiple people. You really are delusional in you views of the progression of events up till his murder.
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