Fines for not allowing to Breast Feed? - Page 2

Stuart · 17-03-2005, 17:25

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Originally Posted by Russ D

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I think it's an excellent idea, there's nothing remotely offensive and everything natural about breastfeeding children. There's everything offensive about being ordered not to feed a child in a public place. Private places are different, of course.

Nothing wrong with breast feeding, in fact it's preferrable. But not blatantly and 'in yer face' (so to speak)

I am curious. Do you eat in public? If so, why is that any different to a baby eating in public? I'll grant you that we, as a country, consider the breast as a sexual object, but the breast is basically there to be a feeding implement for the baby. IMO, used in that capacity, it's no different to a bottle (or a plate of food for adults) and certainly not offensive.

Flubflow · 17-03-2005, 17:29

Perhaps the "sensible" way would be to do what a lot breastfeeding mothers do. That is to use a pump to express milk into a bottle for the times when they may need to quickly feed the baby in public or when the vicar is visiting. It is more convenient and less messy than lifting up your top, undoing your maternity bra, scooping out your cheb and trying to stuff it in the baby's face whilst riding on a bus going over speedbumps.

Russ · 17-03-2005, 17:33

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Originally Posted by scastle

I am curious. Do you eat in public? If so, why is that any different to a baby eating in public? I'll grant you that we, as a country, consider the breast as a sexual object, but the breast is basically there to be a feeding implement for the baby. IMO, used in that capacity, it's no different to a bottle (or a plate of food for adults) and certainly not offensive.

It's not the fact the child is feeding, it's more to do with the woman's breast being exposed inappropriately.

Now before you all go nuts at that, let me elaborate.

If done discreetly, I have no objections. I'm not offended by a woman's breast (quite the opposite actually

) but...."there's a time and a place" is my view.

Remember tolerance in a two-way street.....

Flubflow · 17-03-2005, 17:34

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Originally Posted by ian@huth

I suppose that an adult who is coughing, sneezing and blowing his nose throughout his meal would object if he was told to go and finish his meal in the toilet. (Picture of the advert with the guy with the big nose sneezing and blasting everything in front of him away).

Oh no! The idea of someone rasping a geat sticky nosefart into a hankie at mealtime (and then actually looking into the hankie at what they've acheived) makes me wanna....

17-03-2005, 18:00

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Originally Posted by Russ D

It's the forcing to allow it happen which makes me uncomfortable.

They are only enforcing that it should be allowed. They're not actually forcing women to breastfeed in public.

(Or forcing anyone to make an effort to observe the spectacle, for that matter.)
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Originally Posted by Russ D

It's not the fact the child is feeding, it's more to do with the woman's breast being exposed inappropriately.

Now before you all go nuts at that, let me elaborate.

If done discreetly, I have no objections. I'm not offended by a woman's breast (quite the opposite actually

) but...."there's a time and a place" is my view.

Remember tolerance in a two-way street.....

As I said before, when baby wants food it ain't gonna wait for a better place. For them right here, right now is where it's at.

Now I happen to have been witness to rather a lot of breastfeeding over the years, and it's quite discreet, really - particularly with feeding bras and suitable choice of clothing.
Not really 'exposing' the breast.

Well, not quite as much as by opening some newspapers...
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It's odd really that breastfeeding usually is a more contentious issue that bare boobs on telly - yet the latter is far more prevalent.

17-03-2005, 18:04

hmmmmm Bitty

17-03-2005, 18:08

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It's not the fact the child is feeding, it's more to do with the woman's breast being exposed inappropriately

How can breast feeding a child *at any time* be inappropriate, when it is being used for one of the two reasons human females have larger breasts than men?

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but...."there's a time and a place" is my view.

Which reminds me of Harry Enfields skits of Mr Chumley-Warner, ''Woman, know your place''.

17-03-2005, 18:09

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Originally Posted by Russ D

It's not the fact the child is feeding, it's more to do with the woman's breast being exposed inappropriately.

What a prude!! j/k

Define inappropriately??? IMHO we we're put on this earth without clothing, clothing is something we use to keep warm and to project an image. If a mother wants to get a jug of milk out whereever she is the good on her, its not inappropriate because if we went back to basics they wouldnt be covered in the first place.

17-03-2005, 18:13

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Originally Posted by gary_580

What a prude!! j/k

Define inappropriately??? IMHO we we're put on this earth without clothing, clothing is something we use to keep warm and to project an image. If a mother wants to get a jug of milk out whereever she is the good on her, its not inappropriate because if we went back to basics they wouldnt be covered in the first place.

Ahhhhhh, but you are forgetting about all that sin that goes into child-birth.

Stuart · 17-03-2005, 18:14

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Originally Posted by Russ D

It's not the fact the child is feeding, it's more to do with the woman's breast being exposed inappropriately.

Now before you all go nuts at that, let me elaborate.

If done discreetly, I have no objections. I'm not offended by a woman's breast (quite the opposite actually

) but...."there's a time and a place" is my view.

Remember tolerance in a two-way street.....

The way I see it is that the woman's breast (used in this way) is nothing other than a dispenser for food for the baby. As such, I find it as inapproriate or offensive as a plate.

Of course, breasts do have other uses as well, and it would be entirely inappropriate for those uses to be on display

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Flubflow · 17-03-2005, 18:28

Men have nipples too.

17-03-2005, 18:34

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Originally Posted by Flubflow

Men have nipples too.

And so do most, if not all male mammels. The difference is female mammels have a Mammery Gland to produce milk, with which to suckle their young. In males this gland doesnt work, or no longer exists. (Personally I dont know wether it there or not in male mammels).

punky · 17-03-2005, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

And so do most, if not all male mammels. The difference is female mammels have a Mammery Gland to produce milk, with which to suckle their young. In males this gland doesnt work, or no longer exists. (Personally I dont know wether it there or not in male mammels).

I am pretty sure men can lactate (albeit it is rare, as most men lose their mamary glands)... I think it is an overhang as all foetuses are female for the first X weeks of their life.

Flubflow · 17-03-2005, 18:42

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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

And so do most, if not all male mammels. The difference is female mammels have a Mammery Gland to produce milk, with which to suckle their young. In males this gland doesnt work, or no longer exists. (Personally I dont know wether it there or not in male mammels).

Ah haaaaaaaaaaa! Gotcha.
They DO work.
http://www.chclibrary.org/micromed/00048840.html

er, not mine though I must stress.

**Paul** · 17-03-2005, 18:50

So let me get this straight - a business will be fined for not allowing a woman to show her breasts in public.