Andy Burnham’s chronicles

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

This net-zero lark has decimated business by making energy more expensive than anywhere else in the world. And that's on top of the tax take.

You mention "cost-effective"? Are you sure that wind power is cheaper than gas, especially gas we don't have to transport from the Red Sea? By all means add nuclear energy, wind farms (but not at extortionate land rent prices), solar power etc. But not at a pace that destroys our economy.

The figures have been shared many times.
"While renewable sources such as wind and solar are typically cheaper to produce, gas generation is more expensive due to the cost of producing gas."
https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/blog/wholes...roducing%20gas.

Gas attracts global price rates and more capacity in the UK won't impact this. At the moment, the high price of gas is negatively impacting British industry, not renewables. We need to look at the facts, not what GB News's fossil fuel funders might prefer to tell us.

[Carth]

I'd love some solar panels on my roof, and a couple of batteries to store the 'free' power they would make.

Sadly I can't afford it . . and neither can the Government

renewable sources such as wind and solar are typically cheaper to produce

However, they are also impossible to produce a lot of the time (no sun, no wind).

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The figures have been shared many times.
"While renewable sources such as wind and solar are typically cheaper to produce, gas generation is more expensive due to the cost of producing gas."
https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/blog/wholes...roducing%20gas.

Gas attracts global price rates and more capacity in the UK won't impact this. At the moment, the high price of gas is negatively impacting British industry, not renewables. We need to look at the facts, not what GB News's fossil fuel funders might prefer to tell us.

The global gas price argument always gets trotted out. But it’s the government that grants the licences and a decent negotiator can strike the right deal. Then we have sovereign control.

Withe the wind/solar, nothing is free. We don’t make the panels, we don’t make the wind turbines, we yse coomercial land at rip off rates; the units/farms have to be built. The gas infrastructure is already there

Please dont trot out this pie-in-the-wind cobblers. Sorry to put it that way.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The global gas price argument always gets trotted out. But it’s the government that grants the licences and a decent negotiator can strike the right deal. Then we have sovereign control.

Withe the wind/solar, nothing is free. We don’t make the panels, we don’t make the wind turbines, we yse coomercial land at rip off rates; the units/farms have to be built. The gas infrastructure is already there

Please dont trot out this pie-in-the-wind cobblers. Sorry to put it that way.

A decent negotiator cannot do the impossible. That's just hot air.