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		|  23-04-2025, 22:13 | #241 |  
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					Originally Posted by Chris  It is objectively funny that you said this with (what I assume to be) a straight face. |  I was wondering what happened to Graham…
		 
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					Originally Posted by Chris  It is objectively funny that you said this with (what I assume to be) a straight face. |  Indeed, all humans are biased.
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		|  25-04-2025, 07:48 | #243 |  
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			So there were 4 council by-elections yesterday.
 Reform won 0.
 
 Interestingly that’s now 240 council by-elections since the general election, with just 14 seats won by Reform.
 
 Lib Dems-level results again.
 
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		|  25-04-2025, 14:22 | #244 |  
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	Reform won Marine (Arun).   Their vote in the other three was in the 20% range along with the others.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by Russ  So there were 4 council by-elections yesterday.
 Reform won 0.
 
 Interestingly that’s now 240 council by-elections since the general election, with just 14 seats won by Reform.
 
 Lib Dems-level results again.
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		|  25-04-2025, 18:38 | #245 |  
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					Originally Posted by Russ  So there were 4 council by-elections yesterday.
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		| Marine (Arun) Council By-Election Result: 
 RFM: 26.0% (New)
 LDM: 25.2% (-2.8)
 LAB: 20.1% (-1.1)
 CON: 16.3% (-1.3)
 GRN: 9.8% (New)
 IND: 2.6% (New)
 
 No IND (-33.4) as previous.
 
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		|  25-04-2025, 18:42 | #246 |  
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			Ah right, 1. 
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		|  25-04-2025, 20:53 | #247 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  How many more PMs will it take for you to realise that's simply impossible? |  That is your highly negative outlook, so why are we surprised?
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  No. From my recollection they showed every sign of welcoming them.
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		|  25-04-2025, 23:37 | #249 |  
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					Originally Posted by Russ  Really?  From my recollection, they deported more illegals in 6 months than the Tories did in the previous 12 months |  Might this below be the truth around the government's boast:
 
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		| Sir Keir Starmer has highlighted his government efforts to tackle illegal immigration, saying: "We've returned more than 24,000 people who have no right to be here." 
 He was speaking at an international summit in London aimed at tackling people-smuggling gangs.
 
 The Home Office has also posted a video on X, showing people being escorted onto planes by immigration enforcement officials, with the words: "we have removed more than 24,000 people".
 
 But the claim is misleading. The government's latest figures show that only 6,339 of these were "enforced returns"., external The majority were "voluntary returns" - and a significant number of these happen without the government's direct involvement or even knowledge.
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			So it matters more to you how someone returns rather than the fact they actually returned?
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	What matters to me is that the government's misleading spin hides the facts that Reform UK are accurately reporting.  And you've fallen for the government's spin.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by Russ  So it matters more to you how someone returns rather than the fact they actually returned?
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Might this below be the truth around the government's boast:
 
 [URL="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyw8jw11jwo"]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyw8jw11jwo[/URL
 
 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  What matters to me is that the government's misleading spin hides the facts that Reform UK are accurately reporting.  And you've fallen for the government's spin.
 
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			Reform simply want to stop the boats.  The reported bussing of people to Calais ahead of the summer is a grim warning to us that we will be importing both sides of the Ethiopian warring groups (there will be factional fighting); goodness knows how many trained terrorists/jihadists; many indented people who'll have to turn to crime to pay their gangmasters, etc.
 
 
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			Not a single person on a boat has put peoples mortgages up, underfunded the NHS or spaffed £32bn to their mates for faulty PPE.
		 
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