Calls to make black, asian and minority ethnic history compulsory

[Blackshep]

Why are you playing silly games Ben you know what he meant give it a rest. He raises a valid point as to the increasing frustration and anger a growing number of white British feel (just making it easy so you don't play the same game with me) although no one cares so why worry about it. Also just to clarify I'm neither frustrated or angry as I only have a few more year's in the UK till I retire.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Blackshep

Why are you playing silly games Ben you know what he meant give it a rest. He raises a valid point as to the increasing frustration and anger a growing number of white British feel (just making it easy so you don't play the same game with me) although no one cares so why worry about it. Also just to clarify I'm neither frustrated or angry as I only have a few more year's in the UK till I retire.

I don't see it as a game, far from it. It should be a serious discussion, with people willing to be clear and explicit in their views and points.

Implications, inference and 'you know what I mean' are games.

[Blackshep]

It has become almost taboo to talk about white people in anything but negative terms between the racism we're all supposedly infected with to the blame for every bad thing ever it's the wisest move not to discuss it openly.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Blackshep

Why are you playing silly games Ben you know what he meant give it a rest. He raises a valid point as to the increasing frustration and anger a growing number of white British feel (just making it easy so you don't play the same game with me) although no one cares so why worry about it. Also just to clarify I'm neither frustrated or angry as I only have a few more year's in the UK till I retire.

Why are they angry? They've got their country back, haven't they? No one to do the low paid work any longer and a rapidly ageing population, all sorted.

Times and cultures change, nothing stands still no matter how much we want it to. The fact is most of the Empire chose to go their own way when given the chance.

[Blackshep]

You really are incapable of posting anything without having a dig at people over Brexit it's pathetic, I assume you'll be emigrating soon to get away from the awful half of society.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Our culture is not set in aspic.

What our culture was when the country was majority 'Anglo-Saxons' is not what it was when it was 'Norman' or 'Tudor' or 'Victorian'. Things change and adapt to the people that are part of society.

A good chunk of the country faces East every Sunday. So if that's not what you mean, why are not willing to explicit in what you do mean?

That should read "every Friday".

The changes that the indigenous Brits don't want to see is their culture taken over by any culture that doesn't do multi-culture. Coexisting cultures are fine and will lead to useful homogeneity over time. If any one culture with a growing population is incompatible with what I've described, then we're in trouble.

As if you didn't know.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I should not really allow myself to be drawn but I can't resist.

I'll answer your question by saying this: I forecast that in about 90 years, our successors will all be facing East.

As you are alluding to Muslims in the UK, it is worth pointing out the irony that a large number of them would not be here if the UK had not invaded Pakistan, India, etc. Kind of funny really ..

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

That should read "every Friday".

No, it shouldn't. Which way do the altars in Christian churches in the UK face?

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

If any one culture with a growing population is incompatible with what I've described, then we're in trouble.

It's good that isn't the case in the UK then. The majority of people in the UK do happily co-exist here, including those that follow different religions.

Are there some that don't? Yes, but that's true of all cultures here too, and it's not illegal to choose your own path in the world usually.

As with anyone in the UK it should be possible and correct to do so to deal with any illegal behaviour using our laws and rules, without an incorrect assumption that the behaviour applies to everyone from the same background or religion.

Originally Posted by BenMcr

No, it shouldn't. Which way do the altars in Christian churches in the UK face?

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It's good that isn't the case in the UK then. The majority of people in the UK do happily co-exist here, including those that follow different religions.

Are there some that don't? Yes, but that's true of all cultures here too, and it's not illegal to choose your own path in the world usually.

As with anyone in the UK it should be possible and correct to do so to deal with any illegal behaviour using our laws and rules, without an incorrect assumption that the behaviour applies to everyone from the same background or religion.

It’s East, isn’t it?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientation_of_churches

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Hugh

It’s East, isn’t it?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientation_of_churches

Indeed, so I wanted to understand why this is apparently a problem

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I forecast that in about 90 years, our successors will all be facing East.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

All that will be gone when we have to face East.

[Carth]

oh look, another thread that descends into the pit of racism

If people want to learn about the 'wider' UK history, there's Google to look at

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Carth

If people want to learn about the 'wider' UK history, there's Google to look at

I don't believe that any reputable school teaches their students that way - which is why the original point of Troy Deeny and the reason this thread is here was a call to add more history subjects to lessons that reflect that 'wider' UK history.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

I don't believe that any reputable school teaches their students that way - which is why the original point of Troy Deeny and the reason this thread is here was a call to add more history subjects to lessons that reflect that 'wider' UK history.

No, Troy Deeney is yet another black footballer approaching the end of his career and now trying his hand at politics

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by ianch99

As you are alluding to Muslims in the UK, it is worth pointing out the irony that a large number of them would not be here if the UK had not invaded Pakistan, India, etc. Kind of funny really ..

Not the point, Ian. Islam is not tolerant of apostacy and other differences of culture. If they become the electoral majority in the UK, then you can be sure that the extremist types will take over and you know what that means.

Btw, I subscribe to the theory that Saudi Arabia is playing a very long religious game in Europe.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Carth

No, Troy Deeney is yet another black footballer approaching the end of his career and now trying his hand at politics

And as I said way back at the beginning of this thread:

Originally Posted by BenMcr

And what's the problem with that?