Coronavirus

Originally Posted by papa smurf

No change there then.

So why not give me an explanation?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Do you mean like there was on the BBC news yesterday?

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The two don’t have to be interlinked.

I don’t think there is a conspiracy, but the government have an issue with population adherence therefore it suits to keep them scared, scared enough to stay at home.

[Carth]

Up to now, I still don't know of anyone in family, friends or work that have been hospitalised by the virus.

I know of people at work who have taken time off (with pay) after testing positive (asymptomatic)*, or have been in contact with those who have tested positive.

I do however, hear lots of gossip about who has what where and when, including the death of a chap at the end of our road, who I saw miraculously walking his dog later that day.

I'm not a Covid denier, I just happen to not live in a large city, which I think makes a huge difference on your experience of it.

*at a time when only those displaying symptoms were supposedly tested.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Carth

Up to now, I still don't know of anyone in family, friends or work that have been hospitalised by the virus.

I know of people at work who have taken time off (with pay) after testing positive (asymptomatic)*, or have been in contact with those who have tested positive.

I do however, hear lots of gossip about who has what where and when, including the death of a chap at the end of our road, who I saw miraculously walking his dog later that day.

I'm not a Covid denier, I just happen to not live in a large city, which I think makes a huge difference on your experience of it.

*at a time when only those displaying symptoms were supposedly tested.

Likewise, but as I’ve mentioned on here before I only know of two people that have had it and that was in March 2020.

Mrs Pierres friend is a teacher in Bradford and it’s a different story over there, the large Asian population has been hit very hard with nearly all children in her school losing a family member.

So I think where you are makes a massive difference to your experience.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by joglynne

The Manchester Evening News has published an article to-day written by David Oliver who is an experienced NHS Consultant Physician and medical writer from Manchester.




It's quite a long article but having closely followed this thread from its first post through to the this morning's posts I I have a good idea which of oiur members will bother to read it and which will dismiss it immediatly because for various reasons they consider that what they are being told is either downright lies meant o scare the "poor gulible fools who cower away behind the barracades" or the "I know better than all the experts and I refuse to accept that there is a problem or worse still the " well if I don't actually know any one who died and everyone I know who got wasn't that ill" so why do I have follow any guidelines.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...s-who-19584621

The article is a quality argument that should actually go into a national quality newspaper (if not all).

I have, in the past, been a "let it rip" advocate. I no longer need to be of that persuasion because it is "ripping" and when you combine this with lockdown and vaccination, then we ought to be on an end game path.

The economy, let alone people's mental health, would not have withstood the 1 year + waiting game for the vaccine by way of a rigidly enforce lockdown.

One more thing to say - the Guvmin & press etc are awfully quiet about the facts around infection. Who and how? Clusters by postcode? Somebody must be doing the analysis.

Originally Posted by Pierre

Likewise, but as I’ve mentioned on here before I only know of two people that have had it and that was in March 2020.

Mrs Pierres friend is a teacher in Bradford and it’s a different story over there, the large Asian population has been hit very hard with nearly all children in her school losing a family member.

So I think where you are makes a massive difference to your experience.

This lengthy but very interesting read in the (gritted teeth) Guardian is well worth a look:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...d-combat-covid

Despite institutional resistance to properly funded studies the evidence for vitamin D supplements in reducing Covid-19 mortality is mounting. Vitamin D deficiency is a particular winter problem above 40° latitude and especially those living at these latitudes with darker skin pigmentation as this makes natural synthesis of vitamin D more difficult.

[Sephiroth]

I can't quarrel with the general case for Vitamin D supplements in sunlight deficient countries.

The Guardian article doesn't say much about studies in relation to CV being carried out elsewhere in the world, which would have justified the article's length. Still, a UK initiative on exactly what Vitamin D can do seems sensible.

[joglynne]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I can't quarrel with the general case for Vitamin D supplements in sunlight deficient countries.

The Guardian article doesn't say much about studies in relation to CV being carried out elsewhere in the world, which would have justified the article's length. Still, a UK initiative on exactly what Vitamin D can do seems sensible.

The link between Vitamin D and Covid-19 is covered in the following article, which I am sure I posted a link to in late December, which also gives details of some of the trials and studies that have been done.

https://healthinsightuk.org/2020/10/...covid-fighter/

[heero_yuy]

I wonder if that means that those who were slathering themselves with SPF50 all last summer are more likely to go down with covid?

[Julian]

No social distancing taking place in Crosby as hundreds of football fans throng on the streets.

It's because the Spurs team bus took the dock road exit out of the Mersey Tunnel and just kept driving

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Julian

No social distancing taking place in Crosby as hundreds of football fans throng on the streets.

My home town team. I used to go there every once in a while (usually when Everton reserves were playing against them, or in pre-season friendlies)


Dream result is for Marine to win and tie Everton in the next round.

[tweetiepooh]

VitD - I am participating in the CovitD survey and my Vit D was low so have been given 6 month supplement - must be working no sign of Covid yet :P

I've had reports of how some store keepers in some areas are keeping open by converting their shops into food stores that also stock whatever they want to sell. This was less recent so I think should be being dealt with by now.

Hoping I can still travel to my dental appointment later this week and in 2 weeks for followup. Have a tooth that is fracturing needing a crown. Dentist is still open and I've been with practice over 30 years paying into their scheme. Can't see much additional risk in driving in my metal box for hour or so and entering controlled environment and driving in my metal box for 15 mins and entering controlled environment. Better for me to get it sorted BEFORE it breaks up and I need to find emergency treatment somewhere.

Private Eye have printed a spoof article, written as if Christopher Hitchens (an avid anti-lockdowner and downplayer of the impact of COVID) was writing articles in 1940...

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Private Eye have printed a spoof article, written as if Christopher Hitchens (an avid anti-lockdowner and downplayer of the impact of COVID) was writing articles in 1940...

Never been a fan or Private Eye, I see I'm not missing much.