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		|  14-12-2018, 19:17 | #5041 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  The ship is rudderless anyway, no one's steering, everyone is in the lifeboats.   
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		|  14-12-2018, 19:20 | #5042 |  
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					Originally Posted by jfman  Oh I’d contest it is being steered... |  I'd agree with you there . . . someone seems to be attempting to steer the boat in the direction others seem to not want to go    
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			I blame the 47.6m that didnt vote leave it's all their fault
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		|  14-12-2018, 19:26 | #5044 |  
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					Originally Posted by Damien  Well it’s just their opinion on it as the idea they’re not is yours. My opinion is they were part of cabinet, part of government, people who campaigned for it and in some cases involved with the process so they share some blame. |  Well they don't - as I have said - they were not steering the ship - they have said after leaving their positions they were overruled by the PM or they were bypassed in most of the behind the scene negotiations. 
 
Like Jeremy Corbyn said and I happen to agree with him on this one thing and that is rare - the Brexit Secretary is a Ceremonial role only.
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		|  14-12-2018, 19:29 | #5045 |  
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					Originally Posted by Gavin78  I blame the 47.6m that didnt vote leave it's all their fault |  Well l am one of them so there you are...   
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		|  14-12-2018, 19:32 | #5046 |  
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Well l am one of them so there you are...  |  
so is my missus, she has no interest in it, quite happy as long as the TV keeps showing crap     
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		|  14-12-2018, 20:10 | #5047 |  
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			Not very often you see a European advocating Brexit.https://www.facebook.com/DemocraziaV...5977272757274/ 
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					Originally Posted by jfman  Oh I’d contest it is being steered... |  You got that right. 
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					Originally Posted by Damien  Grow up. You want to leave the EU entirely, you pay the fee the other people do. |  I have absolutely no issue with that, what should we charge EU nationals to enter the U.K.?
 
I think £10 has a nice round feel to it. 
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		|  14-12-2018, 20:22 | #5048 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  I have absolutely no issue with that, what should we charge EU nationals to enter the U.K.?
 I think £10 has a nice round feel to it.
 |  For most countries we do not have a such a program. For a few select countries the fee is £15.
 
I don't think we would introduce it specifically for the EU but if we did do such a program then I imagine it would be £15 for everyone.
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		|  14-12-2018, 20:27 | #5049 |  
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					Originally Posted by Damien  For most countries we do not have a such a program. For a few select countries the fee is £15.
 I don't think we would introduce it specifically for the EU but if we did do such a program then I imagine it would be £15 for everyone.
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		|  14-12-2018, 20:45 | #5050 |  
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					Originally Posted by Damien  For most countries we do not have a such a program. For a few select countries the fee is £15.
 I don't think we would introduce it specifically for the EU but if we did do such a program then I imagine it would be £15 for everyone.
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		|  14-12-2018, 20:59 | #5051 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  £15 would probably be worth €7 in the case of a no-deal Brexit so about right.   |  Will boost our exports then.
		 
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		|  14-12-2018, 21:08 | #5052 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  Will boost our exports then. |  The post-Brexit drop in the £ hasn't achieved this, it's just led to some of our crown jewel companies like ARM being taken over by overseas companies.
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		|  14-12-2018, 21:11 | #5053 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  Will boost our exports then. |  But make the 50% of our food that we import more expensive, though.
		 
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		|  14-12-2018, 21:33 | #5054 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  But make the 50% of our food that we import more expensive, though. |  Are you going to back that statement with any evidence?
 
Indeed, we could make food less expensive, by importing food and not having to impose EU tariffs
https://iea.org.uk/the-eus-thousands...nish-the-poor/
https://fullfact.org/europe/will-get...fs-help-worst/ 
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		|  14-12-2018, 21:48 | #5055 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pierre   |  The irony of a leave voter asking for evidence of post-Brexit reality.
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