[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by Osem

Another breakfast of fear served up by HMG. This time it's the Chancellor and house prices which will plummet if we dare to leave the EU. Yes our houses will drop and interest rates will increase, but there was I thinking this might not be an entirely bad thing. They keep tinkering around the edges trying to make housing more affordable and promising to more but the one thing which they say would really do that, evidently, they're dead set against.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36344425

My God how did we ever survive outside of the Euro-club?

I would have thought that would be a good thing an 18% drop in house prices. Just think of those who can't get on the property latter at the moment falling over themselves to snap up these houses. Bring it on. Let's get a cheap hoose by leaving the EU. I wonder if he realises what he's saying if others think like me?

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Chicken Dave running scared: Prime Minister REFUSES to take part in head-to-head EU debates

chicken Dave yesterday struggled to bat away claims he had become scared of Ukip leader and Brexit campaigners Nigel Farage.

The Tory leader instead confirmed he would instead face off against members of the public in 'town hall' style televised discussions.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/672...d-blue-on-blue

Just as he did in the Scottish Referendum. Said it was up to the Scots to decide to justify not going head to head then they all interfered in the last week.

Originally Posted by Osem

Another breakfast of fear served up by HMG. This time it's the Chancellor and house prices which will plummet if we dare to leave the EU. Yes our houses will drop and interest rates will increase, but there was I thinking this might not be an entirely bad thing. They keep tinkering around the edges trying to make housing more affordable and promising to more but the one thing which they say would really do that, evidently, they're dead set against.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36344425

My God how did we ever survive outside of the Euro-club?

Since when does being in the EU prevent house prices collapsing ,I seem to remember house prices collapsing whilst in the EU during the 1990's and 2007 -09

Originally Posted by Osem

Get the bad news in before those pesky folks who believe in the UK's sovereignty get up eh?

Having made up my mind it's irrelevant, but if I were on the fence I'd be tempted to vote out just to stuff it to these damned people.

I think they're just trying to reinforce the notion of Brexit = economic risk and they know being way over the top grabs headlines. It also sidelines what Leave are saying so their message simply doesn't get across. Even if people dismiss it as scaremongering it's sticks in the mind. Like Obama's intervention the point isn't to win friends but seed fear and doubt.

[papa smurf]

just watched paxman in Brussels on i player
quite interesting worth a watch .

here it is on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD4sSFq_nWg

[dave6x]

Originally Posted by Osem

Another breakfast of fear served up by HMG. This time it's the Chancellor and house prices which will plummet if we dare to leave the EU. Yes our houses will drop and interest rates will increase, but there was I thinking this might not be an entirely bad thing. They keep tinkering around the edges trying to make housing more affordable and promising to more but the one thing which they say would really do that, evidently, they're dead set against.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36344425

My God how did we ever survive outside of the Euro-club?

The FT puts this speculation into perspective

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5e560a76-1...#axzz49I9J6L1B

[papa smurf]

BREXIT BLOCK: PM refuses to publish letters to business bosses in pro-EU lobbying campaign

more conniving by Dodgy Dave


http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...ess-referendum

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by dave6x

The FT puts this speculation into perspective

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5e560a76-1...#axzz49I9J6L1B

Why do you and others keep posting links to articles where a subscription is required?

Seems stupid to me, instead of you putting your perspective on it you wish me to pay to see what your perspective is????

Don't spammers do something similar?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Why do you and others keep posting links to articles where a subscription is required?

Seems stupid to me, instead of you putting your perspective on it you wish me to pay to see what your perspective is????

Don't spammers do something similar?

it deters cheapskates like me from reading it

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

I think they're just trying to reinforce the notion of Brexit = economic risk and they know being way over the top grabs headlines. It also sidelines what Leave are saying so their message simply doesn't get across. Even if people dismiss it as scaremongering it's sticks in the mind. Like Obama's intervention the point isn't to win friends but seed fear and doubt.

That policy didn't go well for Goldsmith did it.

I really think it's going to be seen by many of the undecided as completely OTT and likely to seed a good deal of resentment.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Osem

Another breakfast of fear served up by HMG. This time it's the Chancellor and house prices which will plummet if we dare to leave the EU.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36344425

I've got a few properties but I'm still going to vote out. I'd happily vote out even if it was guaranteed that my properties were going to drop 18% in value. It's worth voting out to regain our sovereignty.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

I've got a few properties but I'm still going to vote out. I'd happily vote out even if it was guaranteed that my properties were going to drop 18% in value. It's worth voting out to regain our sovereignty.

I know what you mean and, of course, we know from experience that there's no reason why staying in is going to preclude a fall in prices. Some say quite the reverse...

This referendum is great for some they can sit all day and indulge their fatalistic tendency and get it in the media my biggest question for the remain side is this, if EU membership is so fantastic so positive for life in general why are so many already and more everyday wanting to leave this great institution why are so many of us unable to see all these positives. As for Cameron the man is fast becoming a complete joke and makes me cringe I just can't take him seriously anymore. Sadly given our current situation where is the alternative there is nothing credible anywhere in the current political class. This whole thing has me being embarassed to be British and the damage this has done to the UK is going to take some repairing whether we are in or out of the EU.

[Osem]

I tend to agree that Cameron hasn't handled this at all well. IMHO the remain campaign is pathetic. It's all very well passionately supporting a cause but the way things are being done is pathetic.

Originally Posted by Osem

I tend to agree that Cameron hasn't handled this at all well. IMHO the remain campaign is pathetic. It's all very well passionately supporting a cause but the way things are being done is pathetic.

To be perfectly honest i don't think the Brexit campaign is doing any better .Given the mood of the nation towards Brussels over the last few years you would think any leave campaign would be doing much better than it is but sadly i think it will be much too close for comfort .Hopefully i'm wrong and the polls are as rubbish as they where in the general election.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by martyh

To be perfectly honest i don't think the Brexit campaign is doing any better .Given the mood of the nation towards Brussels over the last few years you would think any leave campaign would be doing much better than it is but sadly i think it will be much too close for comfort .Hopefully i'm wrong and the polls are as rubbish as they where in the general election.

I agree in part but the difference is that I've at least heard those arguing to leave admit that there will be difficulties. All we seem to get from HMG is doom if we leave and nothing at all positive in return.