General Election 2015: Voting intentions & general discussion

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Let's see: Ed "Two kitchens" promises thousands of nurses but only £2.5m a year. DC promises £8m a year but you believe there'll be nurse number cuts under a Tory government because the Mirror says so.

'Two kitchens Milliband' did make me laugh. He protested that although he did have two kitchens, he only used one of them.

So that made him working class, eh? Pathetic.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Damien

Do you not find it weird that the Tories have sudden promised £8 billion more for the NHS, haven't said where it's coming from, whilst Labour aren't promising to match it? I am dubious about that £8 billion. It just seems to have been conjured out of no where out of a panic that they're not moving ahead in the polls.

If you pay down the deficit quickly then the massive interest payments that would have otherwise have had to have been paid can be used on public services like the NHS. It ain't rocket science except to Labour.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

'Two kitchens Milliband' did make me laugh. He protested that although he did have two kitchens, he only used one of them.

So that made him working class, eh? Pathetic.

He's as out of touch and as working class as any 'Tory Toff'.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

'Two kitchens Milliband' did make me laugh. He protested that although he did have two kitchens, he only used one of them.

So that made him working class, eh? Pathetic.

To be fair, he did say his live-in nanny mainly used the other one......

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

If you pay down the deficit quickly then the massive interest payments that would have otherwise have had to have been paid can be used on public services like the NHS. It ain't rocket science except to Labour.

But the Conservatives had already budgeted ahead of what is free as the result of deficit reduction and there was no mention of this £8 billion. It has just come from nowhere. You can't just say 'deficit reduction' and have that as an answer and you can only spend that money once.

It seems rather disingenuous.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

To be fair, he did say his live-in nanny used the other one......

You're not making it better for him, Hugh!

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Originally Posted by Damien

But the Conservatives had already budgeted ahead of what is free as the result of deficit reduction and there was no mention of this £8 billion. It has just come from nowhere. You can't just say 'deficit reduction' and have that as an answer and you can only spend that money once.

It seems rather disingenuous.

Not really. The economy is in much better shape than it looked just a couple of years ago, and that is what has made this possible.

I dare say that Cameron would not even think of making this pledge if he didn't mean it. It does depend on the Conservatives getting a majority, though. Another coalition will only dilute everything as happened in the current parliament.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Hugh

To be fair, he did say his live-in nanny *mainly used the other one......

He and Balls will be offering them* to all working parents soon I reckon...

[denphone]

More good poll news for the Conservatives.

http://news.forexlive.com/!/latest-u...-lead-20150420

Originally Posted by denphone

More good poll news for the Conservatives.

http://news.forexlive.com/!/latest-u...-lead-20150420

And the bookies seem to be backing that up....

http://www.justbookies.com/election-odds/

Most seats - Conservatives 4/9, Labour 7/4

No overall majority 1/8 to 1/10
Conservative majority 6/1 to 15/2
Labour majority 16/1 to 40/1

[denphone]

My hunch still is that there is going to be a awful lot of horse trading once the election results are in and what might happen from that is anybody's guess as it looks like the Conservatives will win a handful more seats then Labour but not enough to form a cohesive government unless they go into another coalition.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

My hunch still is that there is going to be a awful lot of horse trading once the election results are in and what might happen from that is anybody's guess as it looks like the Conservatives will win a handful more seats then Labour but not enough to form a cohesive government unless they go into another coalition.

I think there will be a last minute surge towards the Conservatives as traditional Labour voters contemplate Miliband as Prime Minister, propped up with rampant Scottish Nationalist support.

There is only one real choice here. Do you want our country to continue on the road back to prosperity or do you want it destroyed? I don't think people should be voting on old party lines. When push comes to shove at the ballot box, I think many Labour supporters will breathe in hard and vote Tory this time.

It will then be up to Cameron not to let them down, and to continue to support the NHS while making sensible decisions on spending and investing money. This nasty class war attitude needs to be put to bed once and for all.

Originally Posted by denphone

More good poll news for the Conservatives.

http://news.forexlive.com/!/latest-u...-lead-20150420

The poll isn't different to what we've seen before. All the polls are moving between margins of error. The Tories declined in this one: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...rdian-icm-poll

We're still drawing with no one moving ahead. The issue for the Tories is that it is much harder to see how they form a Government than it is for Labour considering the SNP seats.

[Osem]

Well a comprehensive poll undertaken by a renowned and eminently fair organisation currently has UKIP well ahead of the rest on 35% of the vote.

I imagine that, come the day, the very worrying prospect of a Labour/SNP dark alliance will focus a few minds amongst those in England who don't like the tail wagging the dog and worry about life's little economic realities.

Originally Posted by Damien

But the Conservatives had already budgeted ahead of what is free as the result of deficit reduction and there was no mention of this £8 billion. It has just come from nowhere. You can't just say 'deficit reduction' and have that as an answer and you can only spend that money once.

It seems rather disingenuous.

Actually it's 10 billion in total ,2 billion was promised in last years autumn statement .I think the only way that much can be found is at the expense of other services unless the planned modernisation will free up loads of money which I doubt .
Having said that 10 billion is quite easy to find over 5 yrs with a good economy

Originally Posted by Osem

I imagine that, come the day, the very worrying prospect of a Labour/SNP dark alliance will focus a few minds amongst those in England who don't like the tail wagging the dog and worry about life's little economic realities.

I really dislike the SNP but the way Scotland is being talked about in this election from the Tories is really helping the SNP and driving a wedge between Scotland and England all to secure a few more votes in England. It's really damaging to the prospects of the Union at a time when it seems quite fragile.

Scotland is part of the United Kingdom and we recently had a campaign where most of the rest of the country was telling them to stay. To then talk about how dangerous the party is that they are seeking to elect would be easily interpreted by Scots as a slant against them and their right to vote for Westminster Governments. I know we're all talking about the SNP but that's not how it will be spun.

For the Tories it makes sense. It drives voters towards them in England and it drives voters towards the SNP in Scotland (the Tories can't win those seats anyway). However they seem to be willing to risk the Union for a few more votes.