100M : The Pirate Bay is blocked

[Russ]

Originally Posted by _wtf_

These people want to charge garages, restaurants etc. for having a radio playing in the background. They've actually taken people to court for doing it.

PRS make me laugh. I get what they're trying to do - ensuring artists get appropriate royalties. But did you know, in short the law says that if you're playing music that another party can hear - for example a shop owner having the radio on that a customer can hear - then that person ought to pay for a licence? So taking that one step further, if you have music on in your car and someone walking past can hear it, technically the PRS guys can take you to court if you do not have a licence for it.

And going on my previous experience with the PRS, it would not surprise me if they tried a test case.

[Sirius]

In October 2009, the PRS apologised to a 56-year-old shelf-stacker at a village in Clackmannanshire for pursuing her for singing to herself while stacking shelves.[23][24] PRS initially told her that she would be prosecuted and fined thousands of pounds if she continued to sing without a "live performance" licence. However PRS subsequently acknowledged its mistake

This is the sort of attitude they have and give them time and they will eventually try this on in court

[Ignitionnet]

So, about TPB rather than the whys and wherefores of copyright and enforcement...

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

So, about TPB rather than the whys and wherefores of copyright and enforcement...

As far as TPB goes

TPB have won and the copyright owners have failed spectacularly. They have driven more traffic to the site and they have created a situation where blocking it is now impossible.

[_wtf_]

As just about every household pays for a license that funds the BBC and the BBC pays the PRS for playing the music surely you can play your radio as loud as you like because anyone that hears it most likely pays for a license anyway?

Perhaps the PRS should go about it another way and get a law passed that if you don't live in a household that pays for a TV license then you have to wear ear-buds to stop you listening to music that may be playing in your vicinity.

As to TPB the cat and mouse games are far from over.

Originally Posted by Russ

PRS make me laugh. I get what they're trying to do - ensuring artists get appropriate royalties. But did you know, in short the law says that if you're playing music that another party can hear - for example a shop owner having the radio on that a customer can hear - then that person ought to pay for a licence? So taking that one step further, if you have music on in your car and someone walking past can hear it, technically the PRS guys can take you to court if you do not have a licence for it.

And going on my previous experience with the PRS, it would not surprise me if they tried a test case.

So do they turn up to those residents around a music festival site or open air concerts and demand money with menaces?

[_wtf_]

Phew

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

So do they turn up to those residents around a music festival site or open air concerts and demand money with menaces?

Well they tried this until they realised they had a PR fiasco on there hands

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/200...34566619.shtml

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

So do they turn up to those residents around a music festival site or open air concerts and demand money with menaces?

Well they tried this until they realised they had a PR fiasco on there hands

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/200...34566619.shtml

http://forum.techradar.com/showthread.php?t=23115

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Well they tried this until they realised they had a PR fiasco on there hands

I'd say the blocking TPB idea will turn out to be a similar fiasco.

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by Sirius

The more they try to block it the more it will be circumnavigated and that's a FACT. I don't use Torrents and i don't use the TPB, but i will do anything i can to ensure we have a non censored internet.

I absolutely agree. But that does not include access to illegal content.

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Originally Posted by _wtf_

These people want to charge garages, restaurants etc. for having a radio playing in the background. They've actually taken people to court for doing it.

Yes. Because it counts as 'public performance', for which you need a licence.

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Originally Posted by Russ

PRS make me laugh. I get what they're trying to do - ensuring artists get appropriate royalties. But did you know, in short the law says that if you're playing music that another party can hear - for example a shop owner having the radio on that a customer can hear - then that person ought to pay for a licence?

See above comment.

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Originally Posted by _wtf_

As just about every household pays for a license that funds the BBC and the BBC pays the PRS for playing the music surely you can play your radio as loud as you like because anyone that hears it most likely pays for a license anyway?

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

So do they turn up to those residents around a music festival site or open air concerts and demand money with menaces?

No, because the music festival should be licensed.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

See above comment.

See my comments about how petty they can (and most likely will) be.

[AdamD]

The PRS sound a lot like the BBC TV licensing team (Or bullies)

Draconian style measures to intimidate and threaten people, should be illegal.

Originally Posted by carlwaring

No, because the music festival should be licensed.

However the residents in the surrounding area will not have purchased a ticket..BUT they are listening to the music inadvertently..

[Russ]

The licence for the festival will be a public performance remit and will cover those attending and in the surrounding areas.

Originally Posted by Russ

The licence for the festival will be a public performance remit and will cover those attending and in the surrounding areas.

Thank you Russ.