Andy Gray sacked by Sky

Originally Posted by Tod

That is my point "where is the line drawn"? It seems to me that the line is drawn before considering the fact we are sexual beings. I bet you have never worked in a sales office! You would be surprised what the women say to blokes in there!

This is slowly becoming an episode of The Office.

I don't know what happens in sales office but I do know, that despite humans being 'sexual beings', there is an expected level of professionalism in most workplaces. I also know there are sexual harassment laws. Most people do know where the draw the line to be honest.

[Acathla]

My take on it is this. If it was banter down the pub then yeah fine - it's banter.

The difference being messrs Gray and Keys were in the workplace. Regardless of whether they were 'broadcasting' or not it doesn't matter. They were in the workplace and that sort of talk is not productive in a professional environemnt.

I know damn well if I said some of the things they said in my workplace I would be up in front of the HR department getting severe warnings. Maybe not sacked but the difference between me and them is the pay gulf. They are in a privileged position and they know it. They need to be extra careful of what they say and where.

No sympathy for either of them.

[Tod]

Originally Posted by Damien

This is slowly becoming an episode of The Office.

Sorry David! :p

Originally Posted by Acathla

My take on it is this. If it was banter down the pub then yeah fine - it's banter.

The difference being messrs Gray and Keys were in the workplace. Regardless of whether they were 'broadcasting' or not it doesn't matter. They were in the workplace and that sort of talk is not productive in a professional environemnt.

I know damn well if I said some of the things they said in my workplace I would be up in front of the HR department getting severe warnings. Maybe not sacked but the difference between me and them is the pay gulf. They are in a privileged position and they know it. They need to be extra careful of what they say and where.

No sympathy for either of them.

And not far from this workplace - the footballers. The double standards of "the beautiful game". Watch 22 men gob and spit, shout and swear at the ref and each other, fake fouls, try to con the ref on every decision even obvious ones (everyones hand goes up for every throw in!), lies, deceipt.........and lets face it, this IS being passed on to todays kids - and society is showing the same "footballer" mentatlity on the streets and in schools.

But you say one crude remark and you are the devils brood!

[Acathla]

Originally Posted by Tod

And not far from this workplace - the footballers. The double standards of "the beautiful game". Watch 22 men gob and spit, shout and swear at the ref and each other, fake fouls, try to con the ref on every decision even obvious ones (everyones hand goes up for every throw in!), lies, deceipt.........and lets face it, this IS being passed on to todays kids - and society is showing the same "footballer" mentatlity on the streets and in schools.

But you say one crude remark and you are the devils brood!

I agree. From a big follower of football I really have very little interest in it now for a number of reasons, not least what you said above.

But 'one crude remark' and Andy Gray was formally warned. A second and third crude remark then came to light and it was no longer a single instance - I really don't think Sky had any option (even if it was a desire of theirs to find an excuse for a sacking already). Like all organisations they have rules and they can't seem to bend these rules regardless of who for.

Wooops!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-22919246/

*Yawn*

Making a few jokes does not qualify someone to be a racist - unless of course you are a newspaper trying hard to make something out of nothing.

That happened 11 years ago.....

He might be a Richard, but I am not sure if he is a racist Richard....

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Paul M

*Yawn*

Making a few jokes does not qualify someone to be a racist - unless of course you are a newspaper trying hard to make something out of nothing.

Originally Posted by Hugh

That happened 11 years ago.....

He might be a Richard, but I am not sure if he is a racist Richard....

Another slow news day for the papers

Awkward that it's one day before he start his new job, someone has access to a lot of tapes. You wonder why they keep the b-roll stuff.