Are Police to Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup ? - Page 10

Gary L · 23-05-2010, 23:18

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Originally Posted by Niles Crane

You mean when somebody in an England shirt gets kicked out of a pub for disorder etc and people report it as happening because they were wearing an England shirt?

No.

Stuart · 23-05-2010, 23:42

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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

They have dangled a carrot, look at our proposals or we will have your licence looked at.

OK, lets look at the article. Having read it, the only parts where it even mentions what the letter says are below:

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From The Sun
Among World Cup guidance, it suggests "dress code restrictions - eg no football shirts".

It also urges using plastic glasses and door staff.

Pubs are not obliged to follow the advice, but it warns: "Police will not hesitate to use powers under the Licensing Act should we find you are not actively supporting the prevention of crime."

Note the last part "Pubs are not obliged to follow the advice". They also state that they will use their powers in the even that you (the publican) don't actively support the prevention of crime.

All that last statement means is the publican is required to help the police in crime prevention. This is the law, and actually covers a whole load of illegal acts that may occur in a pub (assault, murder, drug use etc), and is nothing to do with what shirt people are wearing. Do you not think that if the letter had said shirt wearing was actually banned, the Sun would have published that bit? Note also that the Sun used the word "Guidance", which does not imply banning.

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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

The police have not denied the existence of the letter that was circulated.

No, but they have denied they are banning people.

frogstamper · 24-05-2010, 00:08

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Originally Posted by Derek

Could it be that the Sun, where this story started, is trying to stir up trouble and printing lies, smears and half-truths to sell more papers.

Your not saying that dear old uncle Rupert could have "different" opinions in he's crap-sheets, oopp's sorry comics, depending on what audience he is addressing??
Surely not, that would amount to pretty feeble journalistic integrity on Murdoch's part if it were true

**Maggy** · 24-05-2010, 06:10

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Originally Posted by Gary L

We are guessing it is. let's see what happens closer to the day

So who exactly is guessing?I'm not because I KNOW it is a load of complete and utter garbage being Chinese whispered around the web and pubs.

I don't have to wait until nearer the day..Nothing will change the fact that it is one big LIE purported to be the truth to sell more newspapers...

Not that I actually care myself as I don't even want to wear a football shirt..

papa smurf · 24-05-2010, 06:12

they'll never win
they cant be in every pub
we know the
truth

**Maggy** · 24-05-2010, 06:25

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

they'll never win
they cant be in every pub
we know the
truth

TRUTH! You can't handle the truth!

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papa smurf · 24-05-2010, 06:55

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

TRUTH! You can't handle the truth!

its Monday morning i cant handle reality until lunch time

**Maggy** · 24-05-2010, 06:58

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

its Monday morning i cant handle reality until lunch time

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**Damien** · 24-05-2010, 08:02

I love that people want to believe this is true regardless of the facts. Nice to get outraged at something and play the political correctness victim isn't it? Boo hoo I can't wear my England shirt? Better not actually test that theory though in case I go to the pub and no one cares that I am wearing a shirt eh?

nomadking · 24-05-2010, 15:51

Best not to travel by bus then?
Link

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A toddler was ordered off a bus because the foreign driver was 'offended' by his England football T-shirt, his mother has claimed.

and there were witnesses.

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But he faced a torrent of anger from incredulous passengers, and minutes later backed down and allowed the family to board.

Another Link

Stuart · 24-05-2010, 16:16

This was the opinion of ONE BUS DRIVER. Before you all start moaning that the company will side with him, bear in mind that the company have said they will investigate (as they should), and have also said

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"We are fully supporting England's World Cup campaign and will be putting supporting material in all our buses. No-one should have to accept those sort of comments, certainly none of our customers."

Raistlin · 24-05-2010, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

This was the opinion of ONE BUS DRIVER. Before you all start moaning that the company will side with him, bear in mind that the company have said they will investigate (as they should), and have also said

But he's Polish, so that means all Polish people are bad doesn't it? I mean surely they must all have the same views, I'll bet the police will be banning buses next - just in case people wear England shirts on them. I learn everything I know about reality from Cable Forum

I wonder if you can get England Burkhas.

Flyboy · 24-05-2010, 16:34

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Best not to travel by bus then?
Link
and there were witnesses.

Another Link

Big clue in the quote: "his mother claimed"

Mr Angry · 24-05-2010, 16:40

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Originally Posted by Rob M

I wonder if you can get England Burkhas.

Yes.

nomadking · 24-05-2010, 16:51

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

Big clue in the quote: "his mother claimed"

Standard journalistic language. They would use terms such as 'claimed' and 'alleged' even if there had been 100 cameras recording the events. If there had been 100 cameras recording the events, there would still be many people around here denying that it took place.

For each person(eg bus driver) that actually acts in that manner, how many actually want to do this sort of thing but don't.