Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration
08-11-2009, 18:22
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Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration
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The Home Secretary admitted yesterday that the Government had made mistakes in its handling of immigration.......In his first speech on the subject, Alan Johnson said that ministers had ignored immigration problems and the growing pressure on jobs and services in parts of Britain. Some communities had legitimate concerns because they had been particularly affected.
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I can remember having various arguments with left wingers here on CF about this. Now Labour are even admitting they were wrong on the matter. Exactly what I and others have been saying here for years, to howls of derision from our comrades here. Any left wingers here fancy apologizing to me about this now?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6900299.ece
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Home Office covered up immigration risk
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Labour's “open door” immigration policy knowingly risked allowing dangerous people to settle in Britain unchecked, according to documents seen by The Sunday Times.
The Whitehall correspondence, which was illegally withheld by the Home Office for four years, shows how ministers were told by the country’s most senior immigration official that his staff were to be “encouraged to take risks” when granting visas, work permits and extended residency to hundreds of thousands of new migrants.
The cover-up of this policy of risk-taking was so concerted that Richard Thomas, the then information commissioner, sent a team of investigators into the Home Office to trawl all the relevant papers. Earlier this year he rebuked the department for breaking the law and ordered it to release the material under the freedom of information (FoI) law.
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Immigration a la labour.......good for the country eh?  It seems us right wingers here were right all along....... Doubt we'll get any apologies though.....
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6907991.ece
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08-11-2009, 18:34
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Re: Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration
The thing is these people always try this on at or near election time. It's their speciality! They know they're in deep trouble so now's the time to apparently acknowledge their mistakes, talk tough, promise to act and hope to con us all into voting for them yet again! If they do retain power, expect more of the same cynicism, ineptitude, lies and spin.
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08-11-2009, 18:43
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Re: Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration
got it wrong on immigration !
they screwed up every thing they got involved in
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08-11-2009, 18:47
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Re: Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration
The treasury makes a lot of money out of some immigrants (work permits, etc) but then gives more than that away in benefits, education, etc, to them...
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08-11-2009, 19:00
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Re: Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration
Culpable or inept, for the damage they have done ,the outgoing government has ensured that the labour party wont return to power until long after I am gone.
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08-11-2009, 19:12
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Re: Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration
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Culpable or inept, for the damage they have done ,the outgoing government has ensured that the labour party wont return to power until long after I am gone.
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please tell me your only 16 and will live to be 147years old
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08-11-2009, 20:19
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Re: Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration
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please tell me your only 16 and will live to be 147years old
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Lol!
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08-11-2009, 20:33
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Labour, Everytime i here that word i think of the film were they shout dead man walking, except it should be dead party walking.
They have about as much chance of re election as i have chance of flying in the space shuttle
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08-11-2009, 21:01
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Re: Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration
Still not hearing any apologies from our left leaning members who argued so passionately in favour of labours immigration policy and called us right wingers bigots and racists for saying what labour are actually saying now.......
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08-11-2009, 21:04
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Re: Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration
i'll join the que behind you Ramrod ,
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08-11-2009, 21:07
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The government apologising for screwing up? There definitely must be an election coming up.
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08-11-2009, 21:12
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Re: Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration
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Still not hearing any apologies from our left leaning members who argued so passionately in favour of labours immigration policy and called us right wingers bigots and racists for saying what labour are actually saying now....... 
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Yes, curious how quiet they've been lately isn't it...
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08-11-2009, 21:19
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Re: Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration
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Still not hearing any apologies from our left leaning members who argued so passionately in favour of labours immigration policy and called us right wingers bigots and racists for saying what labour are actually saying now....... 
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Could you provide an example, please, Rammy, of people arguing passionately in favour of Labour's immigration policy? If you mean disagreeing with the bunch of bullcrip that the Mail and the Express print on this issue, you may be confusing disliking xenophobia and incitement to hatred with passionately supporting Labour policy.
btw, if you think I'm a left-winger, how do you explain my service in the RAF, my 29 years membership of the Tory Party, the fact that I have attended over a dozen Tory Party conferences, helped out at General Elections and by-elections, stood for local council, had lunch with MT three times, been an Area and National Officer of the Conservatives, read the Times, the Telegraph, and the Economist - or perhaps things aren't always cut and dried, and some people have a range of views on things.
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08-11-2009, 21:20
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Re: Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration
andyl was before your time, Foreverwar.
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08-11-2009, 21:22
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Re: Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration
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Could you provide an example, please, Rammy, of people arguing passionately in favour of Labour's immigration policy? If you mean disagreeing with the bunch of bullcrip that the Mail and the Express print on this issue, you may be confusing disliking xenophobia and incitement to hatred with passionately supporting Labour policy.
btw, if you think I'm a left-winger, how do you explain my service in the RAF, my 29 years membership of the Tory Party, the fact that I have attended over a dozen Tory Party conferences, helped out at General Elections and by-elections, stood for local council, had lunch with MT three times, been an Area and National Officer of the Conservatives, read the Times, the Telegraph, and the Economist - or perhaps things aren't always cut and dried, and some people have a range of views on things. 
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