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Old 06-04-2009, 19:22   #646
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Re: The existence of God

It would also be nice if the usual suspects would just stop worrying about what theists think/feel and go with what works for them..
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Old 06-04-2009, 19:27   #647
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Re: The existence of God

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I think at first, when the thread started, Russ did think this was going to be a bible bashing type of scenario. I'm hoping now that he can see I wasn't trying to start a war here. I'm actually interested in what people have to say, what drives tham and how they interpret things.

The last few answers Russ has given me have been a great example of that, as with Chris's responses early on in this one and I thank them both for that.

Us non-believers are not all out to get you Russ, nor to make you look silly or flawed. as has been established, it's about faith. I'm just interested in the forces behind that faith and why people think the way they do.


What a lovely response Bender!

Chris has typed a lot of sense (not all I agreed with though!)

His beliefs are a tad different to mine, even though we have the common belief in creation and a firm belief in God, but I do agree that he has typed some things that have possibly made some think!

Hope he is enjoying his holiday and seeing all the good things that this earth has to offer!
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Old 06-04-2009, 19:58   #648
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It would also be nice if the usual suspects would just stop worrying about what theists think/feel and go with what works for them..
being worried and being interested are different things.

as Carl Gustav Jung said, “If one does not understand a person, one tends to regard him as a fool.”. I don't want to see people as fools, so asking is my way of understanding. I don't see any harm in that.

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What a lovely response Bender!
thank you.
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Old 06-04-2009, 20:26   #649
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Re: The existence of God

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What happened to the irish man then?

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So they all had the idea of rolling the stone away just in case he might be alive? After watching him die? And by an amazing coincidence he was alive at that very moment?
Remember Jesus was magic. he didn't die. he slowed down his heartbeat and put himsel into a deep trance.
until his watch alarm went off to wake him up at the opening of the door time

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Ahem......

Jesus
What did you put in Google? Jesus and electric? you wouldn't admit to doing that if you never got a result would you

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How can you make someone not believe something?
You don't love your boyfriend. it's me you want.

It's that easy.

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You ask how I 'know' - well, I don't. I just go on what feels right to me. Have I seen God? No, none of us ever would, at least not on this plane of existence. Have I heard him? Audibly - no. But he has communicated with me. I'm not going to tell you how or what it was about as it's always been very personal matters but what I will say is I believe he helped me choose my daughter's middle name.
Look into my eyes Russ. tell us how he communicated with you!

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One day I was wondering what name to go with. I had a few in mind, all biblical names (Rebecca, Sarah, Hannah, Ruth, they're all biblical names although those weren't in the running) so one day I was praying/meditating and then BANG out of the blue, one of the names shone brightly in my mind, brighter than anything I'd ever imagined. Each letter of the word was lit up by loads of bulbs. I took that as a sign of what he wanted me to give my daughter as a middle name.
That didn't hurt did it?
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Old 06-04-2009, 20:28   #650
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Re: The existence of God

Good to see the only surviving brain transplant donor back.

The thread had been relatively sensible in your absence.
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Re: The existence of God

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Look into my eyes Russ. tell us how he communicated with you!
The day it becomes any of your concern, you'll be the first to know.
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Old 06-04-2009, 20:32   #652
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The day it becomes any of your concern, you'll be the first to know.

Haven't you just told us?
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Haven't you just told us?
No - but then again I suppose expecting you to actually pay attention to anything I say in this thread might be a supreme example of "punching above your weight".
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No - but then again I suppose expecting you to actually pay attention to anything I say in this thread might be a supreme example of "punching above your weight".

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Have I seen God? No, none of us ever would, at least not on this plane of existence. Have I heard him? Audibly - no. But he has communicated with me. I'm not going to tell you how or what it was about as it's always been very personal matters but what I will say is I believe he helped me choose my daughter's middle name. One day I was wondering what name to go with. I had a few in mind, all biblical names (Rebecca, Sarah, Hannah, Ruth, they're all biblical names although those weren't in the running) so one day I was praying/meditating and then BANG out of the blue, one of the names shone brightly in my mind, brighter than anything I'd ever imagined. Each letter of the word was lit up by loads of bulbs. I took that as a sign of what he wanted me to give my daughter as a middle name
You're saying that God communiacted with you, but that's not the one?
Put aside what this thread is about. you can see how confusing it is where it looks like you're saying he did and explain how he did, and then you say that he did communicate with you but that isn't how, even after you say that it was?
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Re: The existence of God

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One day I was wondering what name to go with. I had a few in mind, all biblical names (Rebecca, Sarah, Hannah, Ruth, they're all biblical names although those weren't in the running) so one day I was praying/meditating and then BANG out of the blue, one of the names shone brightly in my mind, brighter than anything I'd ever imagined. Each letter of the word was lit up by loads of bulbs. I took that as a sign of what he wanted me to give my daughter as a middle name.


so you claim in all seriousness that God communicated to you .with bulbs in your mind ,i'm starting to see where the Bible gets its fantastic stories from .
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I told you ONE of the ways it's happened, just like I've answered every one of your pointless questions yet you still come back with faux 'interest'.

Well it stops here. I've told you everything you need to know, it's pretty plain to me (and others) you have no real interest on this subject other than to find more ammunition to mock and criticise.

Go and waste someone else's time.

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so you claim in all seriousness that God communicated to you .with bulbs in your mind ,i'm starting to see where the Bible gets its fantastic stories from .
Yes, I am claiming in all seriousness. If you don't like it you know where you can stick it.
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I told you ONE of the ways it's happened, just like I've answered every one of your pointless questions yet you still come back with faux 'interest'.

Well it stops here. I've told you everything you need to know, it's pretty plain to me (and others) you have no real interest on this subject other than to find more ammunition to mock and criticise.

Go and waste someone else's time.
Grow up Russ you are making this out to be personal when it's not.
I am genuinely confused about the statement. the statement could have been about buying petrol but you didn't buy petrol confusing.

all you had to do was explain that that wasn't the one, and even admit if you wanted to that it does look confusing to read.
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You can claim your intentions are innocent, others know better.
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You can claim your intentions are innocent, others know better.
I have no intentions. that is just you making an accusation.
Why don't you lie down and scream too Russ? you'll get me put straight to jail without a jury having to convict me

If you still won't admit that the statement does look confusing, then that says a lot.
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Or perhaps if you found it confusing, that says a lot? At the end of the day, I've answered all your questions.
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