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Old 24-12-2008, 23:40   #16
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Re: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Christmas C4 speech

The world heard the ramblings of this guy. I`ve read most of what he has to say on another forum. The phrase "backpedaling" comes to mind.

It makes no difference to me anyway, my mind is already made up, this guy is a loose cannon looking for a big gun.

Chaos23, If he gets it, do you think the world will be a safer place to live?
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Re: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Christmas C4 speech

He does speak the truth, in the small preview on the news - even if you think hes trying to be mr nice guy in everyones eye.

The media can manipulate everyone.

There are many views, but people tend to believe the media most of the time.

I don't know who to believe, I'll stay neutral on the issue and I will be watching his speech carefully.
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Old 25-12-2008, 11:09   #18
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'Israel should be wiped off the map That statement is a lie perpetuated by the western media. What Amadinejad actually said was that he wanted the ZIONISTS wiped from the face of the earth.
Thats one way of interpreting it. Most translators/commentators (according to wikipedia) say otherwise
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Re: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Christmas C4 speech

Mr Ahmadinejad's Christmas speech will be much more relevant and important
To us than anything that the queen will say let's face it how can anyone who's
In so much wealth and privilege.even start to know how badly off everyone eles
Is.i find it crass and offensive that she's still allowed to give a speech at all.never
mind the fact she will do it from a Sandringham a place that is the very home of
over extravadance in a time when many have lost there homes.
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Re: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Christmas C4 speech

I am looking forward to it, we have two options with Iran. Ignore them, be scared of them, and raise tensions leading to a very horrible situation. Otherwise we can try and engage them. They are not some desolate country which does not have something to lose by distancing themselves from us. So we both have something to gain from each other.
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Re: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Christmas C4 speech

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Mr Ahmadinejad's Christmas speech will be much more relevant and important
To us than anything that the queen will say let's face it how can anyone who's
In so much wealth and privilege.
........and Mahmoud is a pauper with no privilege and power?
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Re: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Christmas C4 speech

Are people angry that it is being broadcast or angry that it is being suggested it deserves parity with the queen's message?
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Re: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Christmas C4 speech

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Are people angry that it is being broadcast or angry that it is being suggested it deserves parity with the queen's message?
Perhaps more a case of eye-rolling as this seems to be no more than a cheap publicity stunt designed to bring peoples' attention to a tv channel which has largely failed to drag itself out of the gutter since coming into existence.
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Re: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Christmas C4 speech

My worry is that clerics are managing Iran's schools, hospitals, universities, major utilities etc without any proper training. They have managed to screw up the lot...

Mahmoud ridiculed us/our captured boys and girls, he is a mastermind of the media. Do not forget he is a politician and he has to play the local crowd/clerics...
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Re: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Christmas C4 speech

It's a good thing that we live in a country where something like this can be broadcast. I doubt the Queen's speech would be heard in Iran, except maybe from foreign broadcasts, but then the Queen is virtually powerless and will have zero affect on the future of the Middle East, so the value of anything she has to say is non-existent to the rest of the world.
As for hearing a different point of view, well everyone should be willing to think beyond the box and at least listen to what the other-side has to say. Does it really make sense to believe that we're always the good guys and they're always the bad guys? I'll never be brainwashed enough to ever believe that.
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Re: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Christmas C4 speech

Israeli Ambassador Ron Prosor said: "In Iran, converts to Christianity face the death penalty. It is perverse that this despot is allowed to speculate on the views of Jesus, while his government leads Christ's followers to the gallows."


He said Channel 4's decision to broadcast the message was a "scandal and a national embarrassment" and in "its search for ratings and shock factor, Channel 4 has lost its ethical way".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7799652.stm
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Re: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Christmas C4 speech

His speech is a crock, a publicity stunt partially aimed at us. He mentions Britain in his speech. He knows Britain is one of the major training & recruiting grounds for Islamic fanatics. Britain is fast becoming a transit camp for terrorists.

This guy is probably one of the most dangerous people in the world. His rants & death threats show the world Iran is led by an unstable idiot. The problem is compounded by yes men, & clerics, who spout their own brand of religion.

If Iran continues on its Nuclear program, I believe they will be attacked, & their sites blasted to hell. The thought of this raving lunatic commanding a nuclear bomb is unthinkable.

Despite any speech he gives, or promises he makes, his aims will not change.
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Old 25-12-2008, 18:51   #28
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Re: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Christmas C4 speech

He is fast becoming the reason why no one is dealing with Iran in a nice manner and why there have been hints about military action the man is dangerous and has no viewpoint to put other then hate.
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Re: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Christmas C4 speech

The president of Iran has to share his power with many other factions all vying to put their opinions forward and thus Iran gives the outward face of being rather schizoid to the rest of the world.

What he has to say may well sit well with one faction but not another which will lead to him sometimes appearing to contradict himself or even to back pedal on certain view points and then to reverse back again as he tries to juggle all these differing factions.

Sounds familiar doesn't it?
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