Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
17-09-2008, 16:06
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
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Originally Posted by Kymmy
Freeloaders??? Or just customers who want what was advertised???
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Back in those days, the only people who wanted unlimited were those who wanted music from the old Napster, and Films etc - I would even go as far as those who knew about piracy etc.
Nowadays, there are so many legal uses for downloading tonnes of content, that everybody wants to go unlimited.
Don't get me wrong, people should get unlimited, if that's what is advertised.
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Sky have now confirmed this.
We have removed the Fair Usage Policy (FUP) from our Sky Broadband Max product. Customers have told us that they want "unlimited" broadband to be exactly that, so we’ve acted on their feedback. We believe that we are now the only major broadband provider to offer truly "unlimited" broadband. What this means is that, if you’re a Sky Broadband Max customer, means you're free to download as much as you want, whenever you want.
As well as transparency, we know that customers really care about getting consistent, reliable download speeds. One of the biggest gripes with some broadband providers is the capping of speeds during peak times, otherwise known as traffic shaping. We have a high-capacity network that is designed to carry huge amounts of traffic without congestion. So we’re also making a commitment to customers taking our Base, Mid or Max products that we will not slow down their connection speeds at peak times.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/17/sky_fair_use/
And we broke the original story here:
http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-n...unlimited.html
And then promptly emailed The Register, TBB, and ISPreview to tell them.
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17-09-2008, 16:39
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
Great job sky.Only last night i was downloading warhammer and after 3gb (total download 9.5gb) my connection dropped to 550k hope VM does something if not im off
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17-09-2008, 17:14
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
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17-09-2008, 19:31
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
da question is how long will it last ? sounds just like another stunt to me
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17-09-2008, 19:53
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
It could be but I can see its a move to try and over take Virgin the mother of call crappy stm'd broadband
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17-09-2008, 20:09
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
This looks like quite an attractive product now, I already have Sky TV but no BT phone line (it was chopped off at the wall by Nynex...) is there any chance I can get the BT line reinstalled FOC?
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17-09-2008, 20:14
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
I've read posts at SkyUser from people who actually had the BT line installation paid for / refunded by Sky.
e.g.
http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-s...n-charges.html
Not sure if they still do it though.
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18-09-2008, 10:31
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
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Originally Posted by darthlinux
It could be but I can see its a move to try and over take Virgin the mother of call crappy stm'd broadband
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Are you implying that Sky would take on the job?I bet they would love to but it won't happen because it would be that dreaded phrase...a monopoly.
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18-09-2008, 13:33
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
monopoly is not having a better product
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18-09-2008, 13:35
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
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monopoly is not having a better product
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and having no competition so you can charge what you like...
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18-09-2008, 23:39
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
Well I won't be joining anyone because I hate BT more than I hate VM...and I'll never have them back as a phone provider. 
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you generally "hate" most things, the reason being because ... ?
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19-09-2008, 00:25
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
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Originally Posted by mikejones_uk
Does anyone believe this [Sky's unlimited usage ] is **really** sustainable over the long term? I'm personally skepticle, but would be happy to be proven wrong.
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probably yes. My reasons below.
sky do not have the same costs and financial demands of other isps utilising adsl. They have their own LLU network which is massively cheaper than using BT's network (approx 10% of cost), bear in mind sky customers on sky connect (bt network) are 40 gig limited and shaped.
they have no need to make a profit as the broadband is to keep people subscribed to lucrative tv contracts.
the easynet network even before sky brought it was massive and is the 2nd biggest in the country, bigger than VM's. So sky have a bigger network with a 3rd of the customers, work that one out.
This announcement technically changes very little, some people think a lot of heavy users are suddenly going to join sky. Those users are probably already there as its been well known for ages that sky have never enforced the FUP anyway so before the announcement people treated it as unlimited anyway.
Fact is sky are a odd one out, they do actually have a proper capacity network to handle its demands, and it would be nice if other isps followed suit. Sky also want and expect people to use heavy bandwidth to download films etc.
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and having no competition so you can charge what you like... 
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its funny people see sky as poor because of monopoly tendencies but consider their tv service is superior to VM's and now the broadband is unrivalled in terms of what you can download, BE a close rival but still have the FUP on paper.
One thing you can almost garuantuee from competition is reduced prices, but usually quality of service doesnt come. Which is why the past 2 or 3 years have been horrific with broadband cost cutting everywhere.
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19-09-2008, 00:26
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
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Originally Posted by eth01
you generally "hate" most things, the reason being because ... ?
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Experience!!They were absolutely poo when I was a subscriber and the service was abysmal.Good enough for you?
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19-09-2008, 11:17
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Re: Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
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Originally Posted by Graham M
And it's a very nice price tag, but don't they charge like £70 for activation and if you don't have an active BT line it'll cost you £129 for BT to put one in :|
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I did have a dial tone & BT still wanted £124 to "activate me". "Doubt not" i said
Hence i am now here...
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