Future parking rules 'could cause chaos'

Tinky · 13-01-2008, 12:54

More misery for the motorist?

http://www.itv.com/News/Articles/Fut...se-chaos_.html

Wicked_and_Crazy · 13-01-2008, 13:16

Dont park illegally then

Tinky · 13-01-2008, 13:33

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Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy

Dont park illegally then

Luckily I don't drive.

Sirius · 13-01-2008, 13:48

Our local council introduced parking attendants ONLY

they said in the town centre. Within weeks they had realised how much money they were getting in fines and then sent them out to do anyone anywhere which includes housing estates and shopping centre car parks.

Its that lucrative for them that they are building an extra data centre for this and the soon to be chargeable bin system plus they are recruiting more staff to deal with the influx of money,Which means they intend to keep the ripoff going for as long has we have stupid people who vote for the buggers.

The same loony lib council wants to change bins to once fortnightly, Will fine you if you bin is 1 cm open on bin day. And the same councillors have just given themselves a 10% pay rise but have held there staff at 2% So you can be assured that they will be jumping on this as an extra increase in income and more ways to rip off the motorist and fund there payrises.

At the end of the day its yet another way to rip us off and extract as much money and tax out of us by any means they have.

Osem · 13-01-2008, 15:31

My opinions are divided on this - I have genuine sympathy for those who get ticketed for being 1 minute late or parking 3" over the white lines but far too. I also believe the increasing use of more complicated road signage in places like Croydon (including part time restrictions) takes so long for drivers to comprehend that many are just plain confused into making mistakes and having to pay up.

It's equally true however that far too many drivers simply take the mick when it comes to parking, selfishly causing inconvenience and/or even danger to others. Take a few minutes to observe virtually any high street and see how long it is before some lazy idiot double parks, mounts the pavement or stops where they shouldn't and disappears off to the shops without a second thought. All too often it's pure laziness but these people then spend the rest of their lives whineing about how they got fined. Well nobody made them park illegally!

The Hitman · 13-01-2008, 15:33

A Motorist is a criminal. So what's the problem.

jkat · 13-01-2008, 15:35

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Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy

Dont park illegally then

what bothers me is when u dont know u are doing anything illegal, what should we do to control idiot parking? another thing bothers me is that very wealthy people are just not fazed abouit fines! and sirius why are u always going on about the "loony" this and that? do gooders etc?? what category do u fall into, do badder, do nothiner?? when the tories get in will u have the same attitude or will it be just more misery for other folks that makes u happy?

Osem · 13-01-2008, 15:40

The point about the wealthy being able to easily absorb the costs and therefore being able to park virtually with impunity is a good one - that's where clamping/towing is more of a deterrent.

As for being confused - well someone has the difficult job of drawing the line somewhere between those diligent/considerate motorists who genuinely get confused through no real fault of their own and those who simply couldn't care less about anyone/anything and operate on the basis that ignorance should be a defence.

Sirius · 13-01-2008, 19:42

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Originally Posted by jkat

what bothers me is when u dont know u are doing anything illegal, what should we do to control idiot parking? another thing bothers me is that very wealthy people are just not fazed abouit fines! and sirius why are u always going on about the "loony" this and that? do gooders etc?? what category do u fall into, do badder, do nothiner?? when the tories get in will u have the same attitude or will it be just more misery for other folks that makes u happy?

Unfortunaly the Lib's have a hatred of Cars therefor i have a hatred of them. My council seems to think that car owners are the answer to all there money problems. For those of use that NEED to use a vehical to do there everyday work we are about to be hit even more. How do i carry all my tools ladders and spares on a Bus, Bike or Train ? Answer i dont therefor i seem to be part of the food chain when it comes to money grabbing councils.

As to why i call them looney, Well just look at my local Lib council and there track record

Stuart · 13-01-2008, 19:59

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Originally Posted by Osem

My opinions are divided on this - I have genuine sympathy for those who get ticketed for being 1 minute late or parking 3" over the white lines but far too. I also believe the increasing use of more complicated road signage in places like Croydon (including part time restrictions) takes so long for drivers to comprehend that many are just plain confused into making mistakes and having to pay up.

True. They do need to signpost any restrictions, but they need to do so clearly, and without making things too complicated. While the motorist needs to know what is in force, if they have to spend 30 seconds reading all the various signs, that is actually dangerous.

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It's equally true however that far too many drivers simply take the mick when it comes to parking, selfishly causing inconvenience and/or even danger to others. Take a few minutes to observe virtually any high street and see how long it is before some lazy idiot double parks, mounts the pavement or stops where they shouldn't and disappears off to the shops without a second thought. All too often it's pure laziness but these people then spend the rest of their lives whineing about how they got fined. Well nobody made them park illegally!

That's true. There's a few times I have nearly been hit on the way to work because at a certain junction 90% of motorists totally fail to read the road markings. It *is* confusingly laid out, as the main road they are coming from actually bear around to the right (the markings and signage say so), but the road I cross is straight ahead, so technically, before going straight ahead, they *should* indicate left as they are leaving the road.

That is an easy mistake, but I can think of a few examples of mere lazyness.

Our local high street has at least 4 car parks within 100 metres. The banks (and therefore the ATMS) are all in one part of the high street, and there is a bus stop there. The Buses frequently have to stop some way back from the stop, or even in the road (which blocks everyone else) because the area where the bus is supposed to stop is clogged with the cars of people who want to use the ATMs and can't be bothered to walk from the car parks.

Arthurgray50@blu · 13-01-2008, 20:16

I believe the new rules on parking, is going to cause a lot more road rage, and aggro towards traffic enforcement officers, l think that they will have more power gone to there head, ALL councils have gone barking mad, they don't realise, parking bays were designed long before the pen pushers of the councils decided on this stupid new rules, remember 'large cars' for example wont be able to pay properly due to another car double parking, therefore who gets the ticket, and remember, the government has to pass a law to clarify about the ticket being sent out to the victim, as as, far as l know the law states ' the ticket must be placed on the windscreen, before it is legal, l am a labour voter, and becuase of the decision of the government, l won't vote for labour again, this rule is totally wrong and is being ordered by them. If anyone gets a ticket, check it thoroughly, and if nessersary, appeal against it,

Wicked_and_Crazy · 13-01-2008, 21:50

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Originally Posted by jkat

what bothers me is when u dont know u are doing anything illegal, what should we do to control idiot parking? another thing bothers me is that very wealthy people are just not fazed abouit fines! and sirius why are u always going on about the "loony" this and that? do gooders etc?? what category do u fall into, do badder, do nothiner?? when the tories get in will u have the same attitude or will it be just more misery for other folks that makes u happy?

Totally agree, what happens when you get a fine through the post but you had a parking ticket but have thrown the evidence away prior to receiving the letter

14-01-2008, 13:39

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

If anyone gets a ticket, check it thoroughly, and if nessersary, appeal against it,

I did.

I have.

I got abuse on Cable Forum for it the other week.

I'm still waiting to hear the outcome.

Arthurgray50@blu · 14-01-2008, 20:50

Hi LSainsbury, l wish you luck on the ticket, did you know that 90% of the public, do not check tickets, and sometimes take it from the warden (bit stupid that), l used to be a wheel clamper, l did it for a month, that was enough for me, some people are scared to appeal on tickets, but l would say that 60% are successful, that is why, l say check the ticket, and you should not get abuse on this forum, that is not right.