1Mbit price reduction

[Stop It]

Check my edit, Sorry, I didnt read that far :P

[Smilie]

well at the moment NTL aint really strict with their 1gig cap
but if/when BT start their capping
NTL might be stricter with cap as their main competitor BT have a cap aswell

will NTL review their cap????
as with BTs 1mb line they get a average of 1gig/day limit
and by the time all these takes affect NTL 1mb should be running at 1.5mb
shouldnt they have a larger cap???

i want to know when NTL will apply the price cut if this is true
NTL always tries to be cheaper then BT
so its understandable that NTL cut their price on the 1mb/1.5mb line
but how much cheaper will the 1mb/1.5mb line be???
or so i say how much cheaper can NTL price it at the currect situation???

£35???
its still more expensive then BT 1mb line
people might say the line is gonna be 1.5mb soon so its still well priced
but its not if theres still the 1gig/day cap with NTL

£30??? its only £5 more expensive then the 600k/750k
and its gonna make the 600k/750k service badly priced

i know NTL at the moment aint strict with their cap
but its still there and people are still restricted by it
cause of afraid of going over too much

[ian@huth]

NTL customers aren't really bothered by the cap for two reasons.
1 The vast majority of them do not know that there is any suggested limit on their usage of the service
2 Most of the ones that do know of the suggested usage limit just ignore it and continue doing what they like with their connection.

There are two possible scenarios for NTL to enforce a cap.
1 Customers usage of the service impacts heavily on other users and the integrity of the systems.
2 NTL want to make more money out of customers by providing two levels of service on each tier, one capped, the other unlimited.

It could be that NTL reduce the prices, particularly on the 1 (1.5) Mb tier and strictly apply a cap whilst at the same time offering unlimited usage on each tier at a premium price. What you have to remember is that the vast majority of customers never get anywhere close to the current suggested usage limits and NTLs thinking about caps will be influenced by how the majority of customers use their connections and how many customers would breach or be near a cap.

[paulyoung666]

i reckon it would be interesting to see how many ppl habitually go over the limit every day

[td444]

Originally Posted by Smilie

well at the moment NTL aint really strict with their 1gig cap
but if/when BT start their capping
NTL might be stricter with cap as their main competitor BT have a cap aswell

will NTL review their cap????
as with BTs 1mb line they get a average of 1gig/day limit
and by the time all these takes affect NTL 1mb should be running at 1.5mb
shouldnt they have a larger cap???

i want to know when NTL will apply the price cut if this is true
NTL always tries to be cheaper then BT
so its understandable that NTL cut their price on the 1mb/1.5mb line
but how much cheaper will the 1mb/1.5mb line be???
or so i say how much cheaper can NTL price it at the currect situation???

£35???
its still more expensive then BT 1mb line
people might say the line is gonna be 1.5mb soon so its still well priced
but its not if theres still the 1gig/day cap with NTL

£30??? its only £5 more expensive then the 600k/750k
and its gonna make the 600k/750k service badly priced

i know NTL at the moment aint strict with their cap
but its still there and people are still restricted by it
cause of afraid of going over too much

Its a tricky one for NTL. On one hand they're offering the higher speed connections (soon) but on the other hand, your still limited to the same amount per day/month.

Given that, NTL will proberly play the "its faster then BT" card as most regular users (yes, they do exist) are blind to this "1gig a day" cap. I doubt the price will change.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Stop It

It raises the question of why they increased it in the first place....

But the prise rise came after a price drop about a year before.........and still didn't take the price back to it's original level anyway

[Smilie]

they wanted to earn more money while still staying competitive with BT
which was untill BT annonuce the price cut
they didnt know beforehand BT was gonna slash a tenner off their 1mb connection
NTL have to respond to that
but still NTL price cut isnt official yet

[Ramrod]

Anyone for Bulldog?

UK ISP Bulldog is running a SPECIAL PROMOTION on its LLU based (London) 4Mbps broadband ADSL service. The first 3 months will cost just £20 inc. VAT per month, rising to £30 thereafter on a 12 month contract. Free connection.

.....and BT are upping the ante some more: Link

Users of BT Broadband's ADSL service can now upgrade to the ISPs SDSL service whilst still within term on their ADSL service, without fear of penalty fees.

Introduced on the 1st July (BT seemed to want to start this business quarter off with a bit of a bang it seems), customers will be entitled to a credit equal to the number of months remaining on their ADSL contract - upto a maximum of £540 (12 months at £45 per month).

Those wishing to take advantage of this, must have ordered SDSL from BT Broadband on, or after the 1st July, and must cancel their ADSL only after their new SDSL service has been activated. BT will continue to charge the 'early termination fee', but an amount equal to this will be credited towards the new SDSL account.

SDSL from BT costs from £170+VA T per month for a 500kbps service, through to £345+VA T per month for a 2Mbit service.

[Smilie]

dont u sometime wish u are living at a differant part of the country
or maybe a differant country while u are at it

[DeadKenny]

Well, this would be great news and a positive step by NTL for once, if they actually drop the price (it's only "under review" after all).

I said the price rise was stupid at the time, when all other broadband providers are competing with each other to drop prices.

The problem lies with one certain boss at NTL who said something along the lines of "we should penalise 1Mbps customers as they're bandwidth hoggers" (not the exact words, but something to that effect)

Reminds me of IBM who said there'd only ever be a need for 4 computers in the world.

£38 was WAY too much for 1Mbps. It's too much for 1.5Mbps, especially when it's capped (yeah, we know it's theoretical, but it's still not strictly unlimited which is what broadband should be especially at these prices).

Personally I think there should be a 1Mbps service at £30, then 1.5Mbps at £35, 2Mbps at £40, and 3Mbps at £45. All 256kbps upstream minimum (512kbps upstream at 2 or 3Mbps would be nice though ).

[td444]

Originally Posted by DeadKenny

Well, this would be great news and a positive step by NTL for once, if they actually drop the price (it's only "under review" after all).

I said the price rise was stupid at the time, when all other broadband providers are competing with each other to drop prices.

The problem lies with one certain boss at NTL who said something along the lines of "we should penalise 1Mbps customers as they're bandwidth hoggers" (not the exact words, but something to that effect)

Reminds me of IBM who said there'd only ever be a need for 4 computers in the world.

£38 was WAY too much for 1Mbps. It's too much for 1.5Mbps, especially when it's capped (yeah, we know it's theoretical, but it's still not strictly unlimited which is what broadband should be especially at these prices).

Personally I think there should be a 1Mbps service at £30, then 1.5Mbps at £35, 2Mbps at £40, and 3Mbps at £45. All 256kbps upstream minimum (512kbps upstream at 2 or 3Mbps would be nice though ).

I agree with this, and will be showing NTL the door come september. Since I joined, they increased the price within the 12 month contract to £37.99 , which is my door out of rip-off-ville.

Hell, If I was NTL with the control and power over my own network, I would do more to differentiate myself within the market along time ago - this 50% speed increase should have been the case a year ago when ADSL started to make a threat!

Instead, they shave off a few £ off BT's equivalent and get away with it.

I personally cannot wait till Bulldog with C&W's support get LLU moving across this country! So far LLU in Central London has gone down very well. That'll show them...

[Teccie]

Originally Posted by andygrif

Isn't this a bit of egg-on-face for ntl? Having already put the price of the 1MB service up, to now muse about lowering the price makes them look rather amateurish.

I don't think it takes an expert in the industry to predict that speeds will increase and costs will decrease over time.

Indeed it is - as i said at the time when the price was first increased.. they didnt do their homework, as BT had become one of the most expensive adsl providers in the uk and as such it wasnt going to be too long before they had to review thier prices. Infact even with their new prices, they are still higher than some adsl providers.

I wonder how many people, like myelf, actually downgraded to the 600k service when the price went up. I will certainly be going back to 1mb when the price comes back down

If ntl are clever enough, they will keep the 37.99 for the new 1.5mbit, and price the 1mbit @ £29.99, although even them prices will be forced down in the non to distant future....

[DeadKenny]

This just makes me sick. I've just read that PlusNet do uncapped 1Mbps for £29.99.

I checked and it seems it's true. You can even get capped 1Mbps (2GB per month) for £23.99, and capped 2Mbps (4GB per month) for £31.99 or uncapped 2Mbps for £39.99, plus variable cap sizes between depending on what you want to pay.


NTL, capped 1Mbps... £37.99

It's just a joke. Even dropped back to £35 a month, NTL is way overpriced.

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by DeadKenny

This just makes me sick. I've just read that PlusNet do uncapped 1Mbps for £29.99.

I checked and it seems it's true. You can even get capped 1Mbps (2GB per month) for £23.99, and capped 2Mbps (4GB per month) for £31.99 or uncapped 2Mbps for £39.99, plus variable cap sizes between depending on what you want to pay.


NTL, capped 1Mbps... £37.99

It's just a joke. Even dropped back to £35 a month, NTL is way overpriced.

which is fine if you can get adsl , i cannot , so therefore i am stuck with ntl , unless i got a satellite setup

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Teccie

Indeed it is - as i said at the time when the price was first increased.. they If ntl are clever enough, they will keep the 37.99 for the new 1.5mbit, and price the 1mbit @ £29.99, although even them prices will be forced down in the non to distant future....

There isn't going to be a 1 meg and a 1.5 meg service-the 1 meg service will become 1.5 meg following the speed increase.