Brexit (Old) - Page 158

**Mick** · 27-10-2018, 17:41

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Originally Posted by Angua

You assume Obama actually knew the details of what leaving actually involved, rather than seeing a country choose to leave a known market that can negotiate en-block with other countries?

Well, we all know now actually, he was just singing from the hymn sheet that the Remain camp were singing.

https://news.sky.com/story/cameron-p...rning-11423669

Pierre · 27-10-2018, 17:50

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Originally Posted by Angua

When the Leave team were claiming we could leave but still remain in the customs union

I don’t think such a claim was ever made? As that wouldn’t be leaving, being in “the” customs unions is essentially the same as being in the Single Market.

Angua · 27-10-2018, 18:32

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Originally Posted by Pierre

I don’t think such a claim was ever made? As that wouldn’t be leaving, being in “the” customs unions is essentially the same as being in the Single Market.

During the campaign, several leading Brexiteers were at pains to point out we could exit but remain members of the single market. A Tory MEP, Daniel Hannan, who has been described as the “godfather” of Brexit, told the British people that “no-one is talking about threatening our place in the single market”. Yet she insists on the opposite and therefore the most painful of Brexits.

Dave42 · 27-10-2018, 18:43

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Originally Posted by Mick

Well, we all know now actually, he was just singing from the hymn sheet that the Remain camp were singing.

https://news.sky.com/story/cameron-p...rning-11423669

one of biggest mistakes ever that by utter useless Cameron

djfunkdup · 27-10-2018, 18:44

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Originally Posted by Carth

I'm willing to stick my neck out and suggest most of those on protest marches are the ones who couldn't be arsed and now feel stupid

1andrew1 · 27-10-2018, 19:41

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Originally Posted by Dave42

one of biggest mistakes ever that by utter useless Cameron

Without Nick Clegg to veto or sense-check his dafter ideas, he became a poor PM.

Pierre · 27-10-2018, 21:01

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Originally Posted by Angua

During the campaign, several leading Brexiteers were at pains to point out we could exit but remain members of the single market. A Tory MEP, Daniel Hannan, who has been described as the “godfather” of Brexit, told the British people that “no-one is talking about threatening our place in the single market”. Yet she insists on the opposite and therefore the most painful of Brexits.

OK, so one MEP potentially, And I haven’t seen his full quote.

1andrew1 · 27-10-2018, 22:24

pip08456 · 27-10-2018, 22:43

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Tough shit, you won't get one.

OLD BOY · 27-10-2018, 23:00

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Originally Posted by Angua

You do realise this is a petition to have a final say on what deal we have for Brexit. Not a rescind Brexit vote.

Surely it is better to have a majority agreement on such a permanent change, than a minority one? At least then the 49 million who did not vote positively for Brexit get a say, even if that does not please the dictators.

Otherwise we would have left the EU soon after triggering A50, rather than the dithering and movable red lines we have had.

But it's nonsense! There is only a choice between a deal or no deal! Any other choice will put us in a worse position.

Can you not see that?

pip08456 · 27-10-2018, 23:19

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

But it's nonsense! There is only a choice between a deal or no deal! Any other choice will put us in a worse position.

Can you not see that?

Of course it is nonsense, a vote on the final deal!?! They want a third option - Remain!

OLD BOY · 27-10-2018, 23:32

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Of course it is nonsense, a vote on the final deal!?! They want a third option - Remain!

They won't get it!

Pierre · 27-10-2018, 23:55

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

So, 3% of the electorate that voted in the referendum.

Or even more telling it’s only 6% of those that voted remain. How in any stretch of the imagination is this some kind of revelation or revolution. 6% of those that lost the vote have been arsed to sign up to this............ooohhhh, yeah

pip08456 · 27-10-2018, 23:57

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

They won't get it!

I know that but they are so disillusional they think they can get a vote on the final deal and sneak that option of remain onto the ballot.

Never in the history of man has there ever been a vote by the electorate on any deal brokered by any government with any trading block or country.

Does this mean that the "Peoples Vote" (if allowed) will be the final arbiter of any trade deal we may make with any country in the future?

That is total nonsense and the so called "Peoples Vote" on the final deal with the EU (if there is one) is nothing more than an attempt to overturn the result of the referendum.

**Hugh** · 27-10-2018, 23:59

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Originally Posted by Pierre

So, 3% of the electorate that voted in the referendum.

Or even more telling it’s only 6% of those that voted remain. How in any stretch of the imagination is this some kind of revelation or revolution. 6% of those that lost the vote have been arsed to sign up to this............ooohhhh, yeah

by that logic only 62000 of the 17 million, 0.36%, who voted to leave can be arsed to sign up to that.......ooooh, yeah