Coronavirus

[tweetiepooh]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

I had my second AZ Covid-19 jab at 09:05 this morning.


Now waiting for potential side effects, my first I just had mild flu like symptoms so hoping the same or less

I had less issue with 2nd dose of AZ than 1st as is borne up by other evidence, tends to be reverse with Pfizer.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

Exactly this. It's looking better and better that the link between cases and hospitalisation is broken. Hopefully there will be enough evidence by next week when the decision is made but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a couple of extra weeks to absolutely confirm things and mop up the last few older peoples vaccinations (my second dose is next week for example)

Exactly that. ^^

[TheDaddy]

I don't get what the issue is, we've been locked up for eighteen months, two more weeks just to be certain we don't have to endure it again is very sensible imo

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I don't get what the issue is, we've been locked up for eighteen months, two more weeks just to be certain we don't have to endure it again is very sensible imo

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I don't get what the issue is, we've been locked up for eighteen months, two more weeks just to be certain we don't have to endure it again is very sensible imo

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

Exactly this. It's looking better and better that the link between cases and hospitalisation is broken. Hopefully there will be enough evidence by next week when the decision is made but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a couple of extra weeks to absolutely confirm things and mop up the last few older peoples vaccinations (my second dose is next week for example)

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Originally Posted by Chris

El gov has stated that the metric is hospitalisation, not case rates, except to the extent that there’s still a correlation between the two. If evidence continues to build that the vaccine has broken the link between catching covid and being seriously ill with it, the unlocking may proceed as planned, or else be delayed only a week or two.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I don't get what the issue is, we've been locked up for eighteen months

That is the issue.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Pierre

That is the issue.

Then fourteen more days shouldn't present a significant difficulty to most ?

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I don't get what the issue is, we've been locked up for eighteen months, two more weeks just to be certain we don't have to endure it again is very sensible imo

In terms of lockdowns we've had it very very easy compared to some other countries

[Carth]

You get less than 18 months for manslaughter

can we at least go before the parole board on this one?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

You get less than 18 months for manslaughter

can we at least go before the parole board on this one?

time for a jail break

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Pierre

That is the issue.

Really, me not getting this as an issue is the issue, I'd say a much bigger and pressing issue is reckless gamblers wanting to throw away all the sacrifices people have already made for the sake of a couple of weeks

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Then fourteen more days shouldn't present a significant difficulty to most ?

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In terms of lockdowns we've had it very very easy compared to some other countries

Speak for yourself, for me it's been horrific, not been able to sit in the same room as my partner because of her cancer, saw my children once in 14 months because they'd never hear the end of it if I'd infected them and their grandparents in law died, three people dead at work and another on a ventilator for months who might never be the same again plus no furlough for key workers, in fact I've done more hours to make up for the death but although it sounds like I'm complaining I'm not, it was worth it if those closest get through it unscathed and if it takes a couple more weeks so be it imo

Originally Posted by Carth

You get less than 18 months for manslaughter

can we at least go before the parole board on this one?

Is it worth going before the beak for two weeks, they might decide you were dealt with to lenient and increase the sentence

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Really, me not getting this as an issue is the issue, I'd say a much bigger and pressing issue is reckless gamblers wanting to throw away all the sacrifices people have already made for the sake of a couple of weeks




Speak for yourself, for me it's been horrific, not been able to sit in the same room as my partner because of her cancer, saw my children once in 14 months because they'd never hear the end of it if I'd infected them and their grandparents in law died, three people dead at work and another on a ventilator for months who might never be the same again plus no furlough for key workers, in fact I've done more hours to make up for the death but although it sounds like I'm complaining I'm not, it was worth it if those closest get through it unscathed and if it takes a couple more weeks so be it imo



Is it worth going before the beak for two weeks, they might decide you were dealt with to lenient and increase the sentence

My meaning was that we haven't been sealed up in buildings like some in China were, we didn't require a written permit to be out of our house like in France.

Lockdown was/is incredibly arduous & painful for many, however, it's been even more arduous for some in other countries.

Perhaps that's a better way to phrase it.

[Carth]

Looks to me like it's the same people that were constantly bleating about Brexit extensions . . some of us had enough of those too

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Really, me not getting this as an issue is the issue, I'd say a much bigger and pressing issue is reckless gamblers wanting to throw away all the sacrifices people have already made for the sake of a couple of weeks

And then in a couple of weeks it’ll be, let’s just give it a couple of weeks, then another month has gone. Then variant Epsilon turns up, oh we don’t know this one, best give it a couple weeks.....after all what’s a couple of weeks?

The government should have enough data on hospitalization and deaths to make an informed decision we shouldn’t have to wait and see.

Either the vaccine programme is working or it isn’t, don’t tell me we’re leading the world in vaccinating people but still need to lock down, don’t tell me we’re vaccinating millions and it’s a great success but we still have to have tests before events and tests after events.

Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

If there is solid verifiable evidence to not open up in two weeks fine, otherwise open up.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Chris

El gov has stated that the metric is hospitalisation, not case rates, except to the extent that there’s still a correlation between the two. If evidence continues to build that the vaccine has broken the link between catching covid and being seriously ill with it, the unlocking may proceed as planned, or else be delayed only a week or two.

Exactly right. It’s hospitalisations that are important. The number of infections is increasingly irrelevant.

What’s the point of vaccinating the population if you still cling to lockdowns?

I am convinced that the PM will stick to the 21 June deadline. It is absolutely the right decision. Q

I fully expect it to be UK "Independance Day" again.

(Well technically, it will be the 5th July this year, not the 4th).