BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
10-02-2004, 20:22
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BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
My broadband connection, upload, download, latencey, drops over 50% around 6 or 7pm most evenings.
I have had a new BB modem fitted and am now on a 1M/b connection, but still, my gaming experience is still not up to scratch, ie. my ping is pants.
Is it possible for anyone, localy, to hijack my line?? I have monitored large downloads and seen the d-load r8 go from 116K/sec to 15K/sec for five or ten minutes, then shoot back up to 116K/sec. Seems fishy to me. Seems asthough I can see someone elses internet activity affetcing my BB performance.
There is an NTL van parked just down the road from me. <----- Jeez am I getting paranoid now or what, lol.
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10-02-2004, 21:07
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Re: BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
All broadband connections share bandwidth. Their will always be more users than the network can handle if everyone using this particular connection were to log on at the same time. All network providers, including NTL rely on the fact that not all user will be connected at the same time. This means at peak times your share of the bandwidth is smaller than at less busy times, regardless of what speed you subscribe to. This is a theretical maximum connection speed, which will always be lower depending on NTLs contension Ration.
Any one know what value this is ? I think I read somewhere this can be 5:1. but another place as high as 20:1
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10-02-2004, 21:28
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Re: BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
To an extent someone could highjack. "IP Spoofing" or SYN Flooding/DOS Attack is a fairly common method but not normally seen if you're fully patched up. Are you running any firewalls.
Check out Robin Walkers site for excellent trobleshooting tips : http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d...ips/index.html
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10-02-2004, 21:40
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Re: BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
Are you running any p2p applications when you are looking at your download performance?
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10-02-2004, 21:44
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Re: BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
WIFI hijacking is much easier if people arent protecting themselves and their network. If youre interested then do a google search for War Driving.
On the flipside theres quite a few things you can do to protect yourself.
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10-02-2004, 23:12
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Re: BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
I think its just yer cable equalivant of rush hour. Think about when cable is going to be used most by the most people and 6-7pm sounds about right to me
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11-02-2004, 09:19
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Re: BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
can you do a docs diag , found here ?????????? , if you can then it might shed some more light , especially as to how many ppl are on your ubr , i must admit though , it sounds like too many ppl at the same time , is the contention ratio not 50-1
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11-02-2004, 09:54
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Re: BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
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Originally Posted by paulyoung666
can you do a docs diag , found here ?????????? , if you can then it might shed some more light , especially as to how many ppl are on your ubr , i must admit though , it sounds like too many ppl at the same time , is the contention ratio not 50-1 
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Docs diag may help - does it show the ammount of users on a ubr ??
Morning Paul -
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11-02-2004, 10:01
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Re: BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
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Originally Posted by stuartbe
Docs diag may help - does it show the ammount of users on a ubr ??
Morning Paul - 
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unless i am getting very  then yes , mind you i am away with the fairies at the moment due to the painkillers i am taking , so what i type is not guaranteed to be of any use , good evening to you stu , see there you go
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11-02-2004, 10:03
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Re: BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
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Originally Posted by paulyoung666
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I only ask as I have the SCM that has the web diagnostics page... It does not
show the amount of users on the ubr !!
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11-02-2004, 10:05
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Re: BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
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Originally Posted by stuartbe
I only ask as I have the SCM that has the web diagnostics page... It does not
show the amount of users on the ubr !!
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i am sure i have seen it where it shows how many ppl are on each channel of the system
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11-02-2004, 10:15
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Re: BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
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Originally Posted by paulyoung666
i am sure i have seen it where it shows how many ppl are on each channel of the system 
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It could do !!  !! I havent taken my normal pills yet this morning
ibble wibble .......
I cant remember seing that on the diags page - I will have a look tonight
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11-02-2004, 10:19
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Re: BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
The -traffic feature of docsdiag shows the number of people on each upstream of the UBR but this cannot be used in ex CWC areas. Have a look at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d...iag/index.html
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11-02-2004, 10:22
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Re: BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
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Originally Posted by ianathuth
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh so i wasnt far off then
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11-02-2004, 20:57
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Re: BB connection hijacking. Is it possible???
I do have the XP firewall running all the time, but tend to switch off my other one when gaming. ie, most of the time. I'll try activating it and leaving it on from now on me thinks.
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Originally Posted by Tricky
To an extent someone could highjack. "IP Spoofing" or SYN Flooding/DOS Attack is a fairly common method but not normally seen if you're fully patched up. Are you running any firewalls.
Check out Robin Walkers site for excellent trobleshooting tips : http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d...ips/index.html
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