Health chiefs rubber stamp Ealing A&E closure

Arthurgray50@blu · 23-02-2013, 20:14

www.ealinggazzette.co.uk/A/E Closures

Now l know that this government do not give a damn about the voters, the A&E departs of FOUR hospitals are to be closed under cutbacks.

Central Middlesex, Ealing, Charing Cross and Hammersmith are to close its A&E for GP led surgeries. Health Chiefs gave the go ahead, to make sure that patients that cannot get GPs appointment now have to wait longer.

I know for a fact this won't work, it happened to me recently at West Middx, they refused to see me and l was in terrible pain and attempted to make an emergency appointment for my GP, instead of an X Ray l was given g=cream and sent home on strong painkillers.

Hospitals that still have A & E means that patients will have to travels miles for an emergency hospital.

23-02-2013, 21:09

http://www.ealinggazette.co.uk/ealin...4767-32840587/

I'm assuming this is the link Arthur didn't try to post

Sirius · 23-02-2013, 21:11

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Originally Posted by martyh

http://www.ealinggazette.co.uk/ealin...4767-32840587/

I'm assuming this is the link Arthur didn't try to post

And people have just shown him how to do it.

23-02-2013, 21:18

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Originally Posted by Sirius

And people have just shown him how to do it.

he knows full well how to do it ,he was doing around christmas

**Hugh** · 23-02-2013, 21:53

point (repeatedly) made, let's focus on the topic, please....

Arthurgray50@blu · 23-02-2013, 22:28

And not one decent word about the title

dilli-theclaw · 24-02-2013, 11:02

you can't base your opinion on weather or not it will work as you put it purely on your own bad experience.

every time I've been to a&e I've been admitted, never turned away.

i really can't see them turning away anyone without good reason, and if i wasn't satisfied I'd go somewhere else.

Arthurgray50@blu · 24-02-2013, 19:23

Hi Dilligaf, don't like to say this, but that is all changing, IF you have a Doctor, you will be sent to see him or her under new guidelines.

My nearest hospital West Middlesex, l was told by my GP, that if the paid did not go away with medication, then go straight up the hospital which l did, they refused to see me, and told me to go back to the gp under the new guidelines set by the government.

You just cannot walk into A&E now wihtout a GP appointment letter.

Stuart · 24-02-2013, 20:19

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

You just cannot walk into A&E now wihtout a GP appointment letter.

I suspect if your condition is serious enough you will still be admitted.

I think what they are trying to stop is something that was actually a major problem when I worked for my local hospital (not in A&E but I knew a few people who worked there).

That problem was that a lot of people were seeking treatment in A&E for injuries or illnesses that could have been treated by a GP or even with over the counter medicines by the patient themselves. A lot of these patients had been referred by GPs.

Our local health authority even went as far as converting one of the smaller hospitals in the borough to a state of the art minor injuries unit that local GPs could use to perform minor surgery on patients. with the idea that it freed up resources at the borough's A&E department for more serious injuries and illnesses.

The MI unit was so underused that the HA ended up converting it back to a hospital.

Why is this a problem? Simple. Cost. It costs the NHS several times as much to treat a minor injury at an A&E department as it does for the GP to treat the injury at either their own surgery (assuming it is so equipped) or at a local MI unit. Obviously, if the patient is able to themselves using over the counter medicine, it costs the NHS nothing.

dilli-theclaw · 24-02-2013, 20:20

yes you can walk into and get treat in a&e without seeing a gp first.

Stuart · 24-02-2013, 20:26

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

yes you can walk into and get treat in a&e without seeing a gp first.

That's what confused me. You can walk into any department in a hospital with a GP referral. Why would the GP refer you to a department that is not a specialist one for the condition or injury you have?

24-02-2013, 20:29

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

yes you can walk into and get treat in a&e without seeing a gp first.

We all know that but Arthurs got a bee in his bonnet so you can't

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Originally Posted by Stuart

That's what confused me. You can walk into any department in a hospital with a GP referral. Why would the GP refer you to a department that is not a specialist one for the condition or injury you have?

Not much of an accident or emergency either if a doctors referral is needed to sew your finger back on .I think Arthurs getting mixed up again

**Chris** · 24-02-2013, 20:30

Shurley not ...

Sirius · 24-02-2013, 20:32

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Originally Posted by martyh

We all know that but Arthurs got a bee in his bonnet so you can't

When Arthur is in rant mode, all facts go out of the window

Ramrod · 24-02-2013, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

You just cannot walk into A&E now wihtout a GP appointment letter.

Of course you can, you nana. Seriously, if you have a urgent problem you will be triaged, probably made to wait hours and then be seen (and god help you)......but you will be seen, that's why it's called A&E. Don't get me started on how bad the service there can be but it is a walk/limp in service. Granted, some of the time wasters who turn up will probably, quite rightly, be told to bugger off and see their GP......