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Arthurgray50@blu 23-02-2013 20:14

Health chiefs rubber stamp Ealing A&E closure
 
www.ealinggazzette.co.uk/A/E Closures

Now l know that this government do not give a damn about the voters, the A&E departs of FOUR hospitals are to be closed under cutbacks.

Central Middlesex, Ealing, Charing Cross and Hammersmith are to close its A&E for GP led surgeries. Health Chiefs gave the go ahead, to make sure that patients that cannot get GPs appointment now have to wait longer.

I know for a fact this won't work, it happened to me recently at West Middx, they refused to see me and l was in terrible pain and attempted to make an emergency appointment for my GP, instead of an X Ray l was given g=cream and sent home on strong painkillers.

Hospitals that still have A & E means that patients will have to travels miles for an emergency hospital.

martyh 23-02-2013 21:09

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http://www.ealinggazette.co.uk/ealin...4767-32840587/

I'm assuming this is the link Arthur didn't try to post

Sirius 23-02-2013 21:11

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35540835)
http://www.ealinggazette.co.uk/ealin...4767-32840587/

I'm assuming this is the link Arthur didn't try to post

And people have just shown him how to do it.

martyh 23-02-2013 21:18

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35540836)
And people have just shown him how to do it.

he knows full well how to do it ,he was doing around christmas

Hugh 23-02-2013 21:53

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point (repeatedly) made, let's focus on the topic, please....

Arthurgray50@blu 23-02-2013 22:28

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And not one decent word about the title

dilli-theclaw 24-02-2013 11:02

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you can't base your opinion on weather or not it will work as you put it purely on your own bad experience.

every time I've been to a&e I've been admitted, never turned away.

i really can't see them turning away anyone without good reason, and if i wasn't satisfied I'd go somewhere else.

Arthurgray50@blu 24-02-2013 19:23

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Hi Dilligaf, don't like to say this, but that is all changing, IF you have a Doctor, you will be sent to see him or her under new guidelines.

My nearest hospital West Middlesex, l was told by my GP, that if the paid did not go away with medication, then go straight up the hospital which l did, they refused to see me, and told me to go back to the gp under the new guidelines set by the government.

You just cannot walk into A&E now wihtout a GP appointment letter.

Stuart 24-02-2013 20:19

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35541117)

You just cannot walk into A&E now wihtout a GP appointment letter.

I suspect if your condition is serious enough you will still be admitted.

I think what they are trying to stop is something that was actually a major problem when I worked for my local hospital (not in A&E but I knew a few people who worked there).

That problem was that a lot of people were seeking treatment in A&E for injuries or illnesses that could have been treated by a GP or even with over the counter medicines by the patient themselves. A lot of these patients had been referred by GPs.

Our local health authority even went as far as converting one of the smaller hospitals in the borough to a state of the art minor injuries unit that local GPs could use to perform minor surgery on patients. with the idea that it freed up resources at the borough's A&E department for more serious injuries and illnesses.

The MI unit was so underused that the HA ended up converting it back to a hospital.

Why is this a problem? Simple. Cost. It costs the NHS several times as much to treat a minor injury at an A&E department as it does for the GP to treat the injury at either their own surgery (assuming it is so equipped) or at a local MI unit. Obviously, if the patient is able to themselves using over the counter medicine, it costs the NHS nothing.

dilli-theclaw 24-02-2013 20:20

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yes you can walk into and get treat in a&e without seeing a gp first.

Stuart 24-02-2013 20:26

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701 (Post 35541142)
yes you can walk into and get treat in a&e without seeing a gp first.

That's what confused me. You can walk into any department in a hospital with a GP referral. Why would the GP refer you to a department that is not a specialist one for the condition or injury you have?

martyh 24-02-2013 20:29

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701 (Post 35541142)
yes you can walk into and get treat in a&e without seeing a gp first.

We all know that but Arthurs got a bee in his bonnet so you can't

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35541145)
That's what confused me. You can walk into any department in a hospital with a GP referral. Why would the GP refer you to a department that is not a specialist one for the condition or injury you have?

Not much of an accident or emergency either if a doctors referral is needed to sew your finger back on .I think Arthurs getting mixed up again

Chris 24-02-2013 20:30

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Shurley not ... :erm:

Sirius 24-02-2013 20:32

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35541147)
We all know that but Arthurs got a bee in his bonnet so you can't


When Arthur is in rant mode, all facts go out of the window

Ramrod 24-02-2013 20:33

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35541117)

You just cannot walk into A&E now wihtout a GP appointment letter.

Of course you can, you nana. Seriously, if you have a urgent problem you will be triaged, probably made to wait hours and then be seen (and god help you)......but you will be seen, that's why it's called A&E. Don't get me started on how bad the service there can be but it is a walk/limp in service. Granted, some of the time wasters who turn up will probably, quite rightly, be told to bugger off and see their GP......


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