Virgin should buy TiVo...

[HDFootyMan]

....because at this rate, the shares will be cheap enough:

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf...g-loss_1204982

TiVo, the company whose name was once synonymous with digital video recorders, reported on Tuesday that it lost 223,000 subscribers in its last quarter, the second-worst quarter for subscriber losses that it has ever experienced. The company reported a loss of $34.4 million during the quarter versus a loss of $9.9 million for the comparable quarter a year ago. Revenue declined 18.7 percent. Shares in the company fell 4.5 percent on Tuesday and were down an additional 7.2 percent to $9.11 at mid-morning trading on the Nasdaq today (Wednesday) after TheStreet.com downgraded its rating to "Sell" from "Hold."

[muppetman11]

Oh dear !!!! No wonder there giving it away free LOL :-(

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...984989738.html

[Digital Fanatic]

They seem to be concentrating on their new integrated stb cable deals in UK, Sweden etc.

Not a good last quarter for them though.

[devilincarnate]

This is a good read:

http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...-is-stuck.aspx

and check out this from the bottom of the page:

Tivo has been fighting for years to get what is rightfully there's IMO. TiVo has said it will be entitled to about $300 million in

damages and contempt sanctions through July 1, 2009, and it will

seek more cash for infringement after that date. That’s in

addition to $100 million Dish paid TiVo after the original

appeals court ruling.

"Dish may have to pay TiVo more than $2 billion to settle

the case 2009-1374, according to Craig Moffett, an analyst at Sanford C.

Bernstein in New York. If Dish were required to silence all its

DVRs, it would face a worst-case cost of $3 billion, he said"

[HDFootyMan]

You would hope that with the various deals which TiVo have made with European Pay-TV platforms, they should get some money in.

On the flip side, they're being sued in the states by Microsoft, Motorola and Dish Network.

If - god forbid - TiVo went bust....what would happen to the development of VM TiVo?

[muppetman11]

TiVo also saw further erosion in its subscriber base. In the most-recent quarter, the company lost 223,000 subscribers, compared with 131,000 lost a year earlier. Its total customer base is 21% smaller than it was a year earlier and stands at about two million.

223,000 customers is a lot of people when there subscriber base is now only 2 million especially in a country the size of the USA.

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

TiVo also saw further erosion in its subscriber base. In the most-recent quarter, the company lost 223,000 subscribers, compared with 131,000 lost a year earlier. Its total customer base is 21% smaller than it was a year earlier and stands at about two million.

223,000 customers is a lot of people when there subscriber base is now only 2 million.

It is a big loss. Must be why TiVo is taking legal action against DISH etc.

---------- Post added at 20:20 ---------- Previous post was at 20:18 ----------

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan

You would hope that with the various deals which TiVo have made with European Pay-TV platforms, they should get some money in.

On the flip side, they're being sued in the states by Microsoft, Motorola and Dish Network.

If - god forbid - TiVo went bust....what would happen to the development of VM TiVo?

TiVo is suing Dish Network..

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan

On the flip side, they're being sued in the states by Microsoft, Motorola and Dish Network.

This what i posted earlier:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate

TiVo has said it will be entitled to about $300 million in

damages and contempt sanctions through July 1, 2009, and it will

seek more cash for infringement after that date. That’s in

addition to $100 million Dish paid TiVo after the original

appeals court ruling.

"Dish may have to pay TiVo more than $2 billion to settle

the case 2009-1374, according to Craig Moffett, an analyst at Sanford C.

Bernstein in New York. If Dish were required to silence all its

DVRs, it would face a worst-case cost of $3 billion, he said"

[muppetman11]

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...case-vs-dish/1

TIVO vs Dish Network

[Digital Fanatic]

they are all suing each other by the looks of it

[HDFootyMan]

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

TiVo is suing Dish Network..

I stand corrected.

This is a good read:
http://www.canadianbusiness.com/mark...tent=D9LN588O2

Looks like the cases against Dish Network and Echostar will be key, TiVo seem confident of winning because their planning to invest in R & D.

[Digital Fanatic]

It would be awful if TiVo went bust, but in the US the insolvency laws are a lot better. Even Telewest and ntl: went bust all those years ago, but got Chapter11 protection.

I hope TiVo turn it around.

[Big-Ted]

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

they are all suing each other by the looks of it

Not as bad as with Mobile Phones.

Look at this for who's suing who and for what

http://blog.mobiles.co.uk/wp-content...0/lawsuits.png

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...case-vs-dish/1

TIVO vs Dish Network

Did you check the date of the article as it says 4th of March 2010 and the one that i posted was today?

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

they are all suing each other by the looks of it

It sounds like the US version of Sky vs OFCOM LOL