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HDFootyMan 02-03-2011 21:05
Virgin should buy TiVo...
 
....because at this rate, the shares will be cheap enough: :erm:

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf...g-loss_1204982

Quote:
TiVo, the company whose name was once synonymous with digital video recorders, reported on Tuesday that it lost 223,000 subscribers in its last quarter, the second-worst quarter for subscriber losses that it has ever experienced. The company reported a loss of $34.4 million during the quarter versus a loss of $9.9 million for the comparable quarter a year ago. Revenue declined 18.7 percent. Shares in the company fell 4.5 percent on Tuesday and were down an additional 7.2 percent to $9.11 at mid-morning trading on the Nasdaqhttps://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/03/103.png today (Wednesday) after TheStreet.com downgraded its rating to "Sell" from "Hold."

muppetman11 02-03-2011 21:08
Re: Virgin should buy TiVo...
 
Oh dear !!!! No wonder there giving it away free LOL :-(

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...984989738.html

Digital Fanatic 02-03-2011 21:13
Re: Virgin should buy TiVo...
 
They seem to be concentrating on their new integrated stb cable deals in UK, Sweden etc.

Not a good last quarter for them though.

devilincarnate 02-03-2011 21:14
Re: Virgin should buy TiVo...
 
This is a good read:

http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...-is-stuck.aspx

and check out this from the bottom of the page:

Tivo has been fighting for years to get what is rightfully there's IMO. TiVo has said it will be entitled to about $300 million in

damages and contempt sanctions through July 1, 2009, and it will

seek more cash for infringement after that date. That’s in

addition to $100 million Dish paid TiVo after the original

appeals court ruling.

"Dish may have to pay TiVo more than $2 billion to settle

the case 2009-1374, according to Craig Moffett, an analyst at Sanford C.

Bernstein in New York. If Dish were required to silence all its

DVRs, it would face a worst-case cost of $3 billion, he said"

HDFootyMan 02-03-2011 21:15
Re: Virgin should buy TiVo...
 
You would hope that with the various deals which TiVo have made with European Pay-TV platforms, they should get some money in.

On the flip side, they're being sued in the states by Microsoft, Motorola and Dish Network.

If - god forbid - TiVo went bust....what would happen to the development of VM TiVo?

muppetman11 02-03-2011 21:16
Re: Virgin should buy TiVo...
 
TiVo also saw further erosion in its subscriber base. In the most-recent quarter, the company lost 223,000 subscribers, compared with 131,000 lost a year earlier. Its total customer base is 21% smaller than it was a year earlier and stands at about two million.

223,000 customers is a lot of people when there subscriber base is now only 2 million especially in a country the size of the USA.

Digital Fanatic 02-03-2011 21:20
Re: Virgin should buy TiVo...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35185520)
TiVo also saw further erosion in its subscriber base. In the most-recent quarter, the company lost 223,000 subscribers, compared with 131,000 lost a year earlier. Its total customer base is 21% smaller than it was a year earlier and stands at about two million.

223,000 customers is a lot of people when there subscriber base is now only 2 million.
It is a big loss. Must be why TiVo is taking legal action against DISH etc.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35185518)
You would hope that with the various deals which TiVo have made with European Pay-TV platforms, they should get some money in.

On the flip side, they're being sued in the states by Microsoft, Motorola and Dish Network.

If - god forbid - TiVo went bust....what would happen to the development of VM TiVo?
TiVo is suing Dish Network..

devilincarnate 02-03-2011 21:24
Re: Virgin should buy TiVo...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35185518)

On the flip side, they're being sued in the states by Microsoft, Motorola and Dish Network.
This what i posted earlier:

Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35185516)
TiVo has said it will be entitled to about $300 million in

damages and contempt sanctions through July 1, 2009, and it will

seek more cash for infringement after that date. That’s in

addition to $100 million Dish paid TiVo after the original

appeals court ruling.

"Dish may have to pay TiVo more than $2 billion to settle

the case 2009-1374, according to Craig Moffett, an analyst at Sanford C.

Bernstein in New York. If Dish were required to silence all its

DVRs, it would face a worst-case cost of $3 billion, he said"

muppetman11 02-03-2011 21:25
Re: Virgin should buy TiVo...
 
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...case-vs-dish/1

TIVO vs Dish Network

Digital Fanatic 02-03-2011 21:25
Re: Virgin should buy TiVo...
 
they are all suing each other by the looks of it :D

HDFootyMan 02-03-2011 21:26
Re: Virgin should buy TiVo...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35185523)
TiVo is suing Dish Network..
I stand corrected. :)

This is a good read:
http://www.canadianbusiness.com/mark...tent=D9LN588O2

Looks like the cases against Dish Network and Echostar will be key, TiVo seem confident of winning because their planning to invest in R & D.

Digital Fanatic 02-03-2011 21:28
Re: Virgin should buy TiVo...
 
It would be awful if TiVo went bust, but in the US the insolvency laws are a lot better. Even Telewest and ntl: went bust all those years ago, but got Chapter11 protection.

I hope TiVo turn it around.

Big-Ted 02-03-2011 21:28
Re: Virgin should buy TiVo...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35185529)
they are all suing each other by the looks of it :D

Not as bad as with Mobile Phones.

Look at this for who's suing who and for what

http://blog.mobiles.co.uk/wp-content...0/lawsuits.png


:D

devilincarnate 02-03-2011 21:28
Re: Virgin should buy TiVo...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35185528)
Did you check the date of the article as it says 4th of March 2010 and the one that i posted was today?

muppetman11 02-03-2011 21:29
Re: Virgin should buy TiVo...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35185529)
they are all suing each other by the looks of it :D
It sounds like the US version of Sky vs OFCOM LOL :D


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