Children as young as four being radicalised ?

papa smurf · 12-12-2009, 08:31

Children as young as four are being monitored by terror police who fear they could be brainwashed by Islamic extremists.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0ZSf7ijTt

and for those who cant read the mail
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6786...alisation.html

12-12-2009, 09:08

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But critics say there is a risk of alienating people if counter-terrorism officers visit schools and nurseries.

from the mail

I dont give a toss who it alienates everything must be done to rid this country of any radical hate preaching element.They should not be allowed to live here full stop

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But politicians have criticised the move warning that it could do a lot of damage to community relations. ]

you would have thought any reasonable Muslim would want it all stamped out also wouldnt you

**Maggy** · 12-12-2009, 10:27

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Originally Posted by zing

from the mail

I dont give a toss who it alienates everything must be done to rid this country of any radical hate preaching element.They should not be allowed to live here full stop

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you would have thought any reasonable Muslim would want it all stamped out also wouldnt you

Maybe they are just frightened zing?There is a lot of hate being directed at ALL Muslims and they feel under siege.Possibly like how those of Jewish faith felt during the time Oswald Mosley and his marches through the Jewish centres of the East end.

punky · 12-12-2009, 11:12

Given this goes on in Palestine and associated areas this will happen here. Its an eminently sensible

papa smurf · 12-12-2009, 12:22

its sad that our society has to resort to these measures to keep us safe from an enemy within .
some people must know who these radicals are they just choose to say nothing ,and imo that makes them just as guilty as the idiots who blow up buses and trains etc .

who would have imagined anti -terror police monitoring infants ,this country just aint what it used to be, and by that i mean a safe place to live ,i think it was a better place when i was a child .

12-12-2009, 12:27

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

Maybe they are just frightened zing?There is a lot of hate being directed at ALL Muslims and they feel under siege.Possibly like how those of Jewish faith felt during the time Oswald Mosley and his marches through the Jewish centres of the East end.

Well as far as I am aware noone has gone as far as suicide bombings against them. Our troops are dying in God forsaken areas of the world because of Al Qaeda/ Taliban. Those who preach hatred want every none Muslim person needs to be put to the sword.

Maybe not Oswald Mosley but Enoch Powell certain imo had a point.

Maybe a lot of those who are Muslim haters are afraid too after all the violence committed by those of Muslim faith is by far and away a lot worse with far more dramatic circumstances than the none Muslim fanatics. I am afraid of what Islamic fundamentalist are capable of if given the chance because they wouldnt think twice about letting off a dirty bomb or releasing bio weaponry if they had the chance

I want all those who preach hatred and all those who attend meetings sent out of this country. I dont care if some of them are British Citizens the minute they decide to follow the fundamental path they imo forfeit the right to be British . Give them all a tent and fly them to Afghanistan and them reap the rewards of their heart

12-12-2009, 14:12

This is a problem that the islamic community need to sort out and lets be clear there are those within that community that know exactly who are the one's causing a problem and they need to stand up and be counted. I understand the fundamentalists instill fear into all including ordinary muslims but if it is ever to stop and all muslims be allowed to live peacefully it has to be done.

punky · 12-12-2009, 16:01

The trouble is the radical islamic community isolates itself so unless people stick their oar in, how would people know? Radicals won't use mainstream mosques or if they do will remain a tightly-knit faction within it.

Its the same looking at the non-islamic equivalent of radical islam - white nationalists. White kids that are bred to hate different races or religions won't associate with the liberal parts of society that, I would hope, inform on them if they suspect they resort to illegal actions.

Stuart · 12-12-2009, 16:09

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

its sad that our society has to resort to these measures to keep us safe from an enemy within .
some people must know who these radicals are they just choose to say nothing ,and imo that makes them just as guilty as the idiots who blow up buses and trains etc .

who would have imagined anti -terror police monitoring infants ,this country just aint what it used to be, and by that i mean a safe place to live ,i think it was a better place when i was a child .

No, there was only the IRA... Who, lets not forget, have killed far more people in the UK than ANY muslim extremists...

12-12-2009, 16:30

Al Queda killed 1000 more people in one day of terroist acts than the IRA did in the whole duration of the troubles...

Stuart · 12-12-2009, 16:34

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Originally Posted by zing

Al Queda killed 1000 more people in one day of terroist acts than the IRA did in the whole duration of the troubles...

Not in this country..

And I don't see that alienating a section of our own society is going to help.. It hasn't worked in other countries, and didn't work in Northern Ireland..

SMG · 12-12-2009, 16:35

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Originally Posted by zing

Well as far as I am aware noone has gone as far as suicide bombings against them. Our troops are dying in God forsaken areas of the world because of Al Qaeda/ Taliban. Those who preach hatred want every none Muslim person needs to be put to the sword.

Maybe not Oswald Mosley but Enoch Powell certain imo had a point.

Maybe a lot of those who are Muslim haters are afraid too after all the violence committed by those of Muslim faith is by far and away a lot worse with far more dramatic circumstances than the none Muslim fanatics. I am afraid of what Islamic fundamentalist are capable of if given the chance because they wouldnt think twice about letting off a dirty bomb or releasing bio weaponry if they had the chance

I want all those who preach hatred and all those who attend meetings sent out of this country. I dont care if some of them are British Citizens the minute they decide to follow the fundamental path they imo forfeit the right to be British . Give them all a tent and fly them to Afghanistan and them reap the rewards of their heart

12-12-2009, 16:39

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

Not in this country..

And I don't see that alienating a section of our own society is going to help.. It hasn't worked in other countries, and didn't work in Northern Ireland..

pussy footing around is really helping to isnt it?

And there was a lot of British citizens in the twin towers also

papa smurf · 12-12-2009, 16:52

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

Not in this country..

And I don't see that alienating a section of our own society is going to help.. It hasn't worked in other countries, and didn't work in Northern Ireland..

i don't want to alienate them[terrorists] i want to exterminate them ,so the rest of us can live in peace.

Stuart · 12-12-2009, 16:53

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

i don't want to alienate them[terrorists] i want to exterminate them ,so the rest of us can live in peace.

I am not talking about the terrorists. I am talking about the innocent muslims who are starting to feel like they are being victimised by us.