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papa smurf 12-12-2009 08:31

Children as young as four being radicalised ?
 
Children as young as four are being monitored by terror police who fear they could be brainwashed by Islamic extremists.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0ZSf7ijTt



and for those who cant read the mail
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6786...alisation.html

zing_deleted 12-12-2009 09:08

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But critics say there is a risk of alienating people if counter-terrorism officers visit schools and nurseries.


from the mail

I dont give a toss who it alienates everything must be done to rid this country of any radical hate preaching element.They should not be allowed to live here full stop

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But politicians have criticised the move warning that it could do a lot of damage to community relations. ]
you would have thought any reasonable Muslim would want it all stamped out also wouldnt you

Maggy 12-12-2009 10:27

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Originally Posted by zing (Post 34925639)
from the mail

I dont give a toss who it alienates everything must be done to rid this country of any radical hate preaching element.They should not be allowed to live here full stop

---------- Post added at 09:08 ---------- Previous post was at 09:04 ----------



you would have thought any reasonable Muslim would want it all stamped out also wouldnt you

Maybe they are just frightened zing?There is a lot of hate being directed at ALL Muslims and they feel under siege.Possibly like how those of Jewish faith felt during the time Oswald Mosley and his marches through the Jewish centres of the East end.

punky 12-12-2009 11:12

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Given this goes on in Palestine and associated areas this will happen here. Its an eminently sensible

papa smurf 12-12-2009 12:22

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its sad that our society has to resort to these measures to keep us safe from an enemy within .
some people must know who these radicals are they just choose to say nothing ,and imo that makes them just as guilty as the idiots who blow up buses and trains etc .

who would have imagined anti -terror police monitoring infants ,this country just aint what it used to be, and by that i mean a safe place to live ,i think it was a better place when i was a child .

zing_deleted 12-12-2009 12:27

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34925661)
Maybe they are just frightened zing?There is a lot of hate being directed at ALL Muslims and they feel under siege.Possibly like how those of Jewish faith felt during the time Oswald Mosley and his marches through the Jewish centres of the East end.

Well as far as I am aware noone has gone as far as suicide bombings against them. Our troops are dying in God forsaken areas of the world because of Al Qaeda/ Taliban. Those who preach hatred want every none Muslim person needs to be put to the sword.

Maybe not Oswald Mosley but Enoch Powell certain imo had a point.

Maybe a lot of those who are Muslim haters are afraid too after all the violence committed by those of Muslim faith is by far and away a lot worse with far more dramatic circumstances than the none Muslim fanatics. I am afraid of what Islamic fundamentalist are capable of if given the chance because they wouldnt think twice about letting off a dirty bomb or releasing bio weaponry if they had the chance


I want all those who preach hatred and all those who attend meetings sent out of this country. I dont care if some of them are British Citizens the minute they decide to follow the fundamental path they imo forfeit the right to be British . Give them all a tent and fly them to Afghanistan and them reap the rewards of their heart

RizzyKing 12-12-2009 14:12

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This is a problem that the islamic community need to sort out and lets be clear there are those within that community that know exactly who are the one's causing a problem and they need to stand up and be counted. I understand the fundamentalists instill fear into all including ordinary muslims but if it is ever to stop and all muslims be allowed to live peacefully it has to be done.

punky 12-12-2009 16:01

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The trouble is the radical islamic community isolates itself so unless people stick their oar in, how would people know? Radicals won't use mainstream mosques or if they do will remain a tightly-knit faction within it.

Its the same looking at the non-islamic equivalent of radical islam - white nationalists. White kids that are bred to hate different races or religions won't associate with the liberal parts of society that, I would hope, inform on them if they suspect they resort to illegal actions.

Stuart 12-12-2009 16:09

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34925706)
its sad that our society has to resort to these measures to keep us safe from an enemy within .
some people must know who these radicals are they just choose to say nothing ,and imo that makes them just as guilty as the idiots who blow up buses and trains etc .

who would have imagined anti -terror police monitoring infants ,this country just aint what it used to be, and by that i mean a safe place to live ,i think it was a better place when i was a child .

No, there was only the IRA... Who, lets not forget, have killed far more people in the UK than ANY muslim extremists...

zing_deleted 12-12-2009 16:30

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Al Queda killed 1000 more people in one day of terroist acts than the IRA did in the whole duration of the troubles...

Stuart 12-12-2009 16:34

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Originally Posted by zing (Post 34925831)
Al Queda killed 1000 more people in one day of terroist acts than the IRA did in the whole duration of the troubles...

Not in this country..

And I don't see that alienating a section of our own society is going to help.. It hasn't worked in other countries, and didn't work in Northern Ireland..

SMG 12-12-2009 16:35

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Originally Posted by zing (Post 34925707)
Well as far as I am aware noone has gone as far as suicide bombings against them. Our troops are dying in God forsaken areas of the world because of Al Qaeda/ Taliban. Those who preach hatred want every none Muslim person needs to be put to the sword.

Maybe not Oswald Mosley but Enoch Powell certain imo had a point.

Maybe a lot of those who are Muslim haters are afraid too after all the violence committed by those of Muslim faith is by far and away a lot worse with far more dramatic circumstances than the none Muslim fanatics. I am afraid of what Islamic fundamentalist are capable of if given the chance because they wouldnt think twice about letting off a dirty bomb or releasing bio weaponry if they had the chance


I want all those who preach hatred and all those who attend meetings sent out of this country. I dont care if some of them are British Citizens the minute they decide to follow the fundamental path they imo forfeit the right to be British . Give them all a tent and fly them to Afghanistan and them reap the rewards of their heart



:clap::clap::clap::clap:

zing_deleted 12-12-2009 16:39

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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34925833)
Not in this country..

And I don't see that alienating a section of our own society is going to help.. It hasn't worked in other countries, and didn't work in Northern Ireland..

pussy footing around is really helping to isnt it?

And there was a lot of British citizens in the twin towers also

papa smurf 12-12-2009 16:52

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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34925833)
Not in this country..

And I don't see that alienating a section of our own society is going to help.. It hasn't worked in other countries, and didn't work in Northern Ireland..

i don't want to alienate them[terrorists] i want to exterminate them ,so the rest of us can live in peace.

Stuart 12-12-2009 16:53

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34925850)
i don't want to alienate them[terrorists] i want to exterminate them ,so the rest of us can live in peace.

I am not talking about the terrorists. I am talking about the innocent muslims who are starting to feel like they are being victimised by us.


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