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Old 07-11-2006, 21:03   #1
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"Punishment" IP ranges

Well, it looks like "unlimited" NTL are up to their old tricks, this time moving people who are over some arbitrary (and unannounced) "heavy usage" figure to a certain IP range.

As a matter of interest, what IP range are those experiencing speed issues with newsgroups etc currently within?
Mine is 86.8.xxx.xxx are the rest of you in the same range?
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Old 07-11-2006, 21:28   #2
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Well, it looks like "unlimited" NTL are up to their old tricks, this time moving people who are over some arbitrary (and unannounced) "heavy usage" figure to a certain IP range.

As a matter of interest, what IP range are those experiencing speed issues with newsgroups etc currently within?
Mine is 86.8.xxx.xxx are the rest of you in the same range?
I cannot get any sort of speed out of newshosting but can get full speed on Giganews at any time of the day.

ip is 86.11.***.***
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Old 07-11-2006, 21:31   #3
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Re: "Punishment" IP ranges

Interesting, is it possible that they are just targeting UNS and NH then?

If that is the case, then I'm sure those two can claim anti competitive behaviour on NTL's part

I'll sign up to giganews's 3 day trial and see if that is the case, thanks for the info Bill C
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Old 07-11-2006, 21:33   #4
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Re: "Punishment" IP ranges

Or their link to Newshosting could just be knackered.
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Or their link to Newshosting could just be knackered.
And their link(s) (I tried various routing options avoiding any slowdowns) to UNS are knackered too?

Sorry, I don't believe that for a minute
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Old 07-11-2006, 21:38   #6
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Interesting, is it possible that they are just targeting UNS and NH then?

If that is the case, then I'm sure those two can claim anti competitive behaviour on NTL's part

I'll sign up to giganews's 3 day trial and see if that is the case, thanks for the info Bill C
Ok at the moment i have others using my connection.

I have just tried a test and this is my download speed at the moment. What with contention and the others in my house using my connection i think this is ok.
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Re: "Punishment" IP ranges

been downloading from newshosting today at full speed on 10 meg no problems i usually only get 6 to 7 meg on there these days though
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Re: "Punishment" IP ranges

Bill, that's using Giganews, what are your NH speeds like?
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Old 07-11-2006, 22:45   #9
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Bill, that's using Giganews, what are your NH speeds like?
hold on will show you

I stopped the download after the last screen grab. As i don't download in peak time. But i restarted it so show that in my opinion Newshosting are not telling the whole truth. This shows it as well i think.
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Re: "Punishment" IP ranges

My ip. 82.16.xxx.x

I can't figure out why giganews isn't being affected? What's the default port for giganews, and if you can, try 119 on giganews to see if speed is limited. Of course this would need to be done my someones who deems themselves to be in the "NTL punishment zone"
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My ip. 82.16.xxx.x

I can't figure out why giganews isn't being affected? What's the default port for giganews, and if you can, try 119 on giganews to see if speed is limited. Of course this would need to be done my someones who deems themselves to be in the "NTL punishment zone"
That is the port giganews uses and i have not had any problems. I have given up on newshosting as in my opinion it is there fault.

and this is giganews at the moment. On port 119
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Old 07-11-2006, 23:06   #12
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Re: "Punishment" IP ranges

Tell you what Bill, send me your giganews login, and i'll test it for you

I'm tempted to try em out since it has a free 3 days trial, mine as well spend the extra 10 bucks to get the moneys worth out of my 10mb.
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Tell you what Bill, send me your giganews login, and i'll test it for you

I'm tempted to try em out since it has a free 3 days trial, mine as well spend the extra 10 bucks to get the moneys worth out of my 10mb.



this is a trace to giga

news.giganews.com


2 g3-16.gw2.dca.giganews.com (216.196.96.61) 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms
3 ge3-4.fr3.iad.llnw.net (69.28.156.173) 0 ms 5 ms 0 ms
4 tge7-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net (69.28.171.158) 7 ms 6 ms 5 ms
5 tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net (69.28.171.126) 72 ms 72 ms 72 ms
6 * * *
7 pop-bb-b-as0-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.184.5) 84 ms 87 ms 84 ms
8 pop-bb-a-ge-000-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.174.229) 84 ms 86 ms 84 ms
9 win-bb-b-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.202) 85 ms 85 ms 85 ms
10 bir-bb-a-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.141) 89 ms 89 ms 89 ms
11 bir-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.174.1) 89 ms 89 ms 89 ms
12 brhm-sm-cat-v2.inet.ntl.com (62.255.32.61) 89 ms 89 ms 88 ms
13 brhm-cache-9.server.ntli.net (213.105.103.142) 88 ms 88 ms 88 ms

news-europe.giganews.com

2 amst-ic-1.inet.ntl.com (195.69.144.40) 151 ms 159 ms 139 ms
3 pop-bb-a-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.175.5) 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms
4 win-bb-b-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.202) 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms
5 bir-bb-a-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.141) 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms
6 bir-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.174.1) 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms
7 brhm-sm-cat-v2.inet.ntl.com (62.255.32.61) 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms
8 brhm-cache-9.server.ntli.net (213.105.103.142) 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms
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Re: "Punishment" IP ranges

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Tell you what Bill, send me your giganews login, and i'll test it for you

I'm tempted to try em out since it has a free 3 days trial, mine as well spend the extra 10 bucks to get the moneys worth out of my 10mb.
So am I. I'm also tempted to inform UNS and NH that NTL have singled them out for the speed drop, as they will lose customers over this to Giganews.

I'll happily move to GN if it means I can continue getting the speeds I pay for the few times a month I need it.
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Old 07-11-2006, 23:35   #15
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My giganews has no problems either neither has my http connection to easynews
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