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PC_Arcade 07-11-2006 21:03

"Punishment" IP ranges
 
Well, it looks like "unlimited" NTL are up to their old tricks, this time moving people who are over some arbitrary (and unannounced) "heavy usage" figure to a certain IP range.

As a matter of interest, what IP range are those experiencing speed issues with newsgroups etc currently within?
Mine is 86.8.xxx.xxx are the rest of you in the same range?

Bill C 07-11-2006 21:28

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Originally Posted by PC_Arcade (Post 34152811)
Well, it looks like "unlimited" NTL are up to their old tricks, this time moving people who are over some arbitrary (and unannounced) "heavy usage" figure to a certain IP range.

As a matter of interest, what IP range are those experiencing speed issues with newsgroups etc currently within?
Mine is 86.8.xxx.xxx are the rest of you in the same range?

I cannot get any sort of speed out of newshosting but can get full speed on Giganews at any time of the day.

ip is 86.11.***.***

PC_Arcade 07-11-2006 21:31

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Interesting, is it possible that they are just targeting UNS and NH then?

If that is the case, then I'm sure those two can claim anti competitive behaviour on NTL's part

I'll sign up to giganews's 3 day trial and see if that is the case, thanks for the info Bill C

Stuart 07-11-2006 21:33

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Or their link to Newshosting could just be knackered.

PC_Arcade 07-11-2006 21:34

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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34152846)
Or their link to Newshosting could just be knackered.

And their link(s) (I tried various routing options avoiding any slowdowns) to UNS are knackered too?

Sorry, I don't believe that for a minute

Bill C 07-11-2006 21:38

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Interesting, is it possible that they are just targeting UNS and NH then?

If that is the case, then I'm sure those two can claim anti competitive behaviour on NTL's part

I'll sign up to giganews's 3 day trial and see if that is the case, thanks for the info Bill C

Ok at the moment i have others using my connection.

I have just tried a test and this is my download speed at the moment. What with contention and the others in my house using my connection i think this is ok.

Doofy 07-11-2006 21:51

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been downloading from newshosting today at full speed on 10 meg no problems i usually only get 6 to 7 meg on there these days though

PC_Arcade 07-11-2006 22:37

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Bill, that's using Giganews, what are your NH speeds like?

Bill C 07-11-2006 22:45

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Bill, that's using Giganews, what are your NH speeds like?

hold on will show you :) :LOL:

I stopped the download after the last screen grab. As i don't download in peak time. But i restarted it so show that in my opinion Newshosting are not telling the whole truth. This shows it as well i think.

pk1209 07-11-2006 22:54

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My ip. 82.16.xxx.x

I can't figure out why giganews isn't being affected? What's the default port for giganews, and if you can, try 119 on giganews to see if speed is limited. Of course this would need to be done my someones who deems themselves to be in the "NTL punishment zone"

Bill C 07-11-2006 23:01

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My ip. 82.16.xxx.x

I can't figure out why giganews isn't being affected? What's the default port for giganews, and if you can, try 119 on giganews to see if speed is limited. Of course this would need to be done my someones who deems themselves to be in the "NTL punishment zone"

That is the port giganews uses and i have not had any problems. I have given up on newshosting as in my opinion it is there fault.

and this is giganews at the moment. On port 119

pk1209 07-11-2006 23:06

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Tell you what Bill, send me your giganews login, and i'll test it for you ;)

I'm tempted to try em out since it has a free 3 days trial, mine as well spend the extra 10 bucks to get the moneys worth out of my 10mb.

Bill C 07-11-2006 23:10

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Originally Posted by pk1209 (Post 34152979)
Tell you what Bill, send me your giganews login, and i'll test it for you ;)

I'm tempted to try em out since it has a free 3 days trial, mine as well spend the extra 10 bucks to get the moneys worth out of my 10mb.


:LOL:

this is a trace to giga

news.giganews.com


2 g3-16.gw2.dca.giganews.com (216.196.96.61) 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms
3 ge3-4.fr3.iad.llnw.net (69.28.156.173) 0 ms 5 ms 0 ms
4 tge7-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net (69.28.171.158) 7 ms 6 ms 5 ms
5 tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net (69.28.171.126) 72 ms 72 ms 72 ms
6 * * *
7 pop-bb-b-as0-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.184.5) 84 ms 87 ms 84 ms
8 pop-bb-a-ge-000-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.174.229) 84 ms 86 ms 84 ms
9 win-bb-b-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.202) 85 ms 85 ms 85 ms
10 bir-bb-a-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.141) 89 ms 89 ms 89 ms
11 bir-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.174.1) 89 ms 89 ms 89 ms
12 brhm-sm-cat-v2.inet.ntl.com (62.255.32.61) 89 ms 89 ms 88 ms
13 brhm-cache-9.server.ntli.net (213.105.103.142) 88 ms 88 ms 88 ms

news-europe.giganews.com

2 amst-ic-1.inet.ntl.com (195.69.144.40) 151 ms 159 ms 139 ms
3 pop-bb-a-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.175.5) 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms
4 win-bb-b-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.202) 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms
5 bir-bb-a-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.141) 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms
6 bir-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.174.1) 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms
7 brhm-sm-cat-v2.inet.ntl.com (62.255.32.61) 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms
8 brhm-cache-9.server.ntli.net (213.105.103.142) 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms

PC_Arcade 07-11-2006 23:31

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Tell you what Bill, send me your giganews login, and i'll test it for you

I'm tempted to try em out since it has a free 3 days trial, mine as well spend the extra 10 bucks to get the moneys worth out of my 10mb.
So am I. I'm also tempted to inform UNS and NH that NTL have singled them out for the speed drop, as they will lose customers over this to Giganews.

I'll happily move to GN if it means I can continue getting the speeds I pay for the few times a month I need it.

zing_deleted 07-11-2006 23:35

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My giganews has no problems either neither has my http connection to easynews ;)


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