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Old 16-08-2003, 15:50   #18
Mark W
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Swansea
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Originally posted by Gogogo
One cannot agree with every decision the Israeli government makes but it is a democracy and still the only middle eastern democratic state. Israel is entitled to defend itself and take whatever measures are needed.
I think youll find that lebanon, egypt and syria are democracies too....
so israel can take whatever measures it needs to defend itself? but palestine cannot? so they just have to put up with israeli curfews in THEIR cities, israeli armour and troops in THEIR cities, assassanations by israelies - often causing ALOT of 'collateral' damage - in THEIR cities, and having their houses bulldozed and having jewish settlements build on THEIR land? to fight againsed that is wrong??

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Whilst the palestinians engage in cowardly, homicidal bombings peace will be harder to find.
As opposed to israeli forces attacking via helcopter gunships and supersonic fighter jets againsed people who cant fight back?
palestine dont have a standing army - israel have made damn sure of that - so they have to fight back anyway they can.....
....yes, this causes terror for israelies, but then the palestinian people live under the fear of israeli occupation every day too.....

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By the way don't you notice how the leaders of palestinian terror groups enjoy western lifestyles, they love their 4x4s and send young palestinians to their deaths whist the leaders themseves continue to enjoy their own selfish lives.
what a pointless statement. that is the nature of leaders. at the last gulf war i didnt see blair or bush slogging it out on the frontline with the troops did you? rather they were being driven round in limos going to state dinners.....

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I'm all in favour of peace but the palestinians themselves must realise they will get nowhere with homicidal killings and learn to compromise.
compromise???? they are second class citizens in their own land...they have only the rights the israelies decide to give them, they have their houses and land taken from them by force to make way for israeli settlements, they suffer daily killings and murder at the hands of israeli deaths and when they try to fight againsed this - because diplomacy didnt work - they get branded as terrorists...

some facts taken from HERE

since the second uprising there have been between 2,386 and 2,532 palestinian deaths (and that does NOT include those killed whilst engaged in military action againsed israelies , and between 23,094 and 41,000 + injuries

as opposed to 742 to 806 israeli deaths, and 5,586 injuries

.....yet the popular belief is its the israelies that are being murdered en masse.....
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