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Originally Posted by Chris
The deal he was being asked to sign was bad
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I haven’t seen the terms of the deal so can’t comment on how bad it was.
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the way he was treated in public by the president of the US was utterly shocking.
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It was a clown show.
But for arguments sake, the USA have been bankrolling this conflict (reported amounts vary, but it’s a lot). The US wants to recoup some of this expenditure and have a ceasefire so talks can begin.
And Zelenskyy says no, well I wouldn’t be happy if I was Trump….I would have dealt with it better though.
As an aside…..Zelenskyy no ceasefire ….hero. Netanyahu no ceasefire…….evil……….but I digress.
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Even if Zelenskyy’s negotiating skills were lacking (and I don’t think they are), whatever failings he has are utterly swallowed by the infamous spectacle Trump, Vance, Marje’s boyfriend et al perpetrated today.
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It was bad, and was avoidable from both sides, but Zelenskyy is the one with his cap in hand………borrowers rarely dictate terms to lenders and that is essentially the point.
Trump is viewing this as he views all things, a business transaction.
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Originally Posted by Gavin78
But you have to ask trump this, when Russia installed nukes in Cuba it was nearly WW3 then so how is it any different now.
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It’s an interesting and valid point.
Why should Russia live with nato weapons trained on them from an adjacent country, when the US didn’t?
I assume that was the point you were making?